Lake City will have plenty of seconds to dump on the civilian market.
If you need 5.56 ammo you better hurry
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Just checked Palmetto State shows out of stock on all BULK 5.57 ammo
I’m sure they will. I think this is just a knee jerk reaction kinda thing. Hopefully just short term influx. Dude out of AZ I was talking to shipped over 200k 5.56 rounds out in less that a week and they’re just a small a two man operation. I’d love to know how much the large suppliers went through.
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I better crank up the old Dillon 650. Haven't used it since I moved here 5+ years ago. At least I still have plenty of my Varget, Titegroup, primers, bullets & used brass. I just reload .45 .556 & 9mm. Been so long I better look up my recipes so I don't get them mixed up!
Lake City supposedly produces about 60% of the 5.56 made in the USA, so this is a bigger deal than some may think.
A Hornady plant had a big explosion last week (with at least one fatality), so that may reduce ammo production as well.
Of course, the IMI ammo will not be imported for the foreseeable future.
A Hornady plant had a big explosion last week (with at least one fatality), so that may reduce ammo production as well.
Of course, the IMI ammo will not be imported for the foreseeable future.
Tamlibtoim
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Just checked my normal go to websites for ammo and 5.56 is nonexistent or up to $650 for 1000 rounds… Not this crap again
General Zod
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War in the middle east. Go figure.
Did you stock up on ammo while the getting was good? | Page 7 | Northwest Firearms
KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas PAX
"Dear Customers of KIR Ammo:
Several events over the past week have contributed to a significantly tumultuous time in the ammo industry. I will address these as succinctly and objectively as possible to give you information you can use and share to make informed decisions about ammo purchases in the coming months.
1) The Lake City Army Ammunition Plant is the single largest producer of rifle ammunition for the U.S. military and is operated by Winchester-Olin. Winchester holds the contract to run the plant and is thereby granted permission to sell some of the ammo that is produced there - this includes 5.56x45mm M193 and M855, the most popular rifle cartridges in America. On Thursday last week, we were informed that demand from the military has overridden all existing commercial orders, and that Lake City has temporarily suspended all production for the civilian market. When will this end? We do not know, but an educated guess might be a few weeks to a couple months - however I could be wrong; we can't tell with certainty. This move has already tightened supply and demand has soared for many popular calibers including, but not limited to: 5.56x45mm NATO, .223 Rem, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, and .308 Win. We have secured a temporary supply of 5.56 FMJ which will be arriving throughout this coming week, but we do not know how long it will be available on the open market. I will share more information as I learn it.
2) On Friday morning (10/13), Hornady experienced a fatal explosion at one of its manufacturing plants in Wood River, NE. Sadly, one woman died, and the cause of the explosion has not been determined. Reports state the explosion occurred at a chemical compound building which we can safely assume manufactures and stores powder and/or coatings for Hornady ammo. Hornady has been tight lipped about what happened (rightfully so after such a tragic event) and we do not know how this will affect production, but it would make sense that this will tighten supply on Hornady products. Which specific products, we cannot say; it may be all of them, or just a subset (think Superformance hunting rounds vs. Frontier that use different powders).
3) The recent conflict in the Middle East has further tightened supply on ammunition and firearms from IWI (Israel Military Industries). These include their popular Razor Core line of 5.56 and various firearms. Mass shipments of ammunition are confirmed to have been delivered from the U.S. to meet demand. This ties into the Lake City's restriction on commercial sales. The continuing conflict in Ukraine has tightened supply around .338 Lapua Mag, 7.62x39mm, 5.45x39mm, 5.56x45mm, and other popular calibers. I do not anticipate Covid-type levels of inflation, but with all of these factors combined, we are inching in that direction.
4) KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas, so we keep in close communication with their U.S. HQ in Savannah, GA. As of Thursday last week, Norma is completely sold out of all major FMJ calibers mentioned above. They are not sure when the next run of 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 9mm will happen, but they are completely out of that ammo for now. We were able to secure (only!) two pallets of 5.56x45mm which will be delivered sometime in the next week or two. This gives you an idea on how strong demand has gotten in a very short period of time. Norma is not the only manufacturer affected by this supply constriction.
5) Black Hills Ammunition, famed manufacturer of the 5.56x45mm MK262 MOD 1-C cartridge, will likely halt commercial sales of that particular variation as well. They did not make any formal announcements, but it is a safe guess that we won't be seeing that round available for some time. We were lucky enough to receive half a pallet early last week before the preceding events transpired.
Here at KIR Ammo, we are experiencing record levels of demand and will continue to ship all of your orders in a timely manner without sacrificing service and quality. We always try our best to get back to each and every one of you when you have questions, but please bear with us as right now we are "all-hands-on-deck" in the warehouse, printing, picking, packing, and shipping!
Thank you from myself and the team here at KIR for your continued support of our family-owned business.
Respectfully,
V. Campbell
Owner - KIR Ammo“
KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas PAX
"Dear Customers of KIR Ammo:
Several events over the past week have contributed to a significantly tumultuous time in the ammo industry. I will address these as succinctly and objectively as possible to give you information you can use and share to make informed decisions about ammo purchases in the coming months.
1) The Lake City Army Ammunition Plant is the single largest producer of rifle ammunition for the U.S. military and is operated by Winchester-Olin. Winchester holds the contract to run the plant and is thereby granted permission to sell some of the ammo that is produced there - this includes 5.56x45mm M193 and M855, the most popular rifle cartridges in America. On Thursday last week, we were informed that demand from the military has overridden all existing commercial orders, and that Lake City has temporarily suspended all production for the civilian market. When will this end? We do not know, but an educated guess might be a few weeks to a couple months - however I could be wrong; we can't tell with certainty. This move has already tightened supply and demand has soared for many popular calibers including, but not limited to: 5.56x45mm NATO, .223 Rem, 9mm, 7.62x39mm, and .308 Win. We have secured a temporary supply of 5.56 FMJ which will be arriving throughout this coming week, but we do not know how long it will be available on the open market. I will share more information as I learn it.
2) On Friday morning (10/13), Hornady experienced a fatal explosion at one of its manufacturing plants in Wood River, NE. Sadly, one woman died, and the cause of the explosion has not been determined. Reports state the explosion occurred at a chemical compound building which we can safely assume manufactures and stores powder and/or coatings for Hornady ammo. Hornady has been tight lipped about what happened (rightfully so after such a tragic event) and we do not know how this will affect production, but it would make sense that this will tighten supply on Hornady products. Which specific products, we cannot say; it may be all of them, or just a subset (think Superformance hunting rounds vs. Frontier that use different powders).
3) The recent conflict in the Middle East has further tightened supply on ammunition and firearms from IWI (Israel Military Industries). These include their popular Razor Core line of 5.56 and various firearms. Mass shipments of ammunition are confirmed to have been delivered from the U.S. to meet demand. This ties into the Lake City's restriction on commercial sales. The continuing conflict in Ukraine has tightened supply around .338 Lapua Mag, 7.62x39mm, 5.45x39mm, 5.56x45mm, and other popular calibers. I do not anticipate Covid-type levels of inflation, but with all of these factors combined, we are inching in that direction.
4) KIR Ammo is the #1 distributor of Norma Ammunition products in the State of Texas, so we keep in close communication with their U.S. HQ in Savannah, GA. As of Thursday last week, Norma is completely sold out of all major FMJ calibers mentioned above. They are not sure when the next run of 5.56x45mm, 7.62x39mm, or 9mm will happen, but they are completely out of that ammo for now. We were able to secure (only!) two pallets of 5.56x45mm which will be delivered sometime in the next week or two. This gives you an idea on how strong demand has gotten in a very short period of time. Norma is not the only manufacturer affected by this supply constriction.
5) Black Hills Ammunition, famed manufacturer of the 5.56x45mm MK262 MOD 1-C cartridge, will likely halt commercial sales of that particular variation as well. They did not make any formal announcements, but it is a safe guess that we won't be seeing that round available for some time. We were lucky enough to receive half a pallet early last week before the preceding events transpired.
Here at KIR Ammo, we are experiencing record levels of demand and will continue to ship all of your orders in a timely manner without sacrificing service and quality. We always try our best to get back to each and every one of you when you have questions, but please bear with us as right now we are "all-hands-on-deck" in the warehouse, printing, picking, packing, and shipping!
Thank you from myself and the team here at KIR for your continued support of our family-owned business.
Respectfully,
V. Campbell
Owner - KIR Ammo“
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Live and learn.
I remember when some evil little piece of shit son of a bitch chose to murder people at a place called Sandy Hook. Some were watching the news. A friend of mine was buying everything he could get his hands on by 4:00 in the afternoon. Most places had raised prices by the next morning and many had depleted inventories by the next afternoon.
I remember when some evil little piece of shit son of a bitch chose to murder people at a place called Sandy Hook. Some were watching the news. A friend of mine was buying everything he could get his hands on by 4:00 in the afternoon. Most places had raised prices by the next morning and many had depleted inventories by the next afternoon.
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Temp ban because of his behavior in the "Israel Attacked" thread. I think some of his posts were actually removed because of it.
Prices have been lower the last year or so(until the Israel situation) than they ever were under Trump.
Just like lobster, market price
Thankfully the few sites that I pay attention to haven’t gone up much yet. Still 50 cents and under for m193 between Badlands and that new Mark1 outfit. It’s sad to think just before this happened not even 2 weeks ago I could get prvi ss109 for 38 cents and lake city for 39.
Side note: if anyone wants to run some wolf steel case 223 badlands has it for 40 cents. No tax. Cases only.
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Side note: if anyone wants to run some wolf steel case 223 badlands has it for 40 cents. No tax. Cases only.
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Lake City Army Ammunition Plant Contract Cancellations Rumor is FALSE - Firearms News
Unfortunately, many in the gun community have been duped. The rumor Lake City has stopped manufacturing and selling commercial ammunition is false.
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the lake city ammo plant thing is bs.
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