How close is too close for a prism?

[GennadiyB]

Hey guys, so Ive been eyeing the 3x prism scope from swampfox (they have an awesome military discount) but I am wondering if its a good move. The prism is going on my AR in 5.56. I dont hunt with it, its training and defense only. I know that the prism will be solid at 50 yards plus, but what about 10-20 yards? I know for sure any true CQB that prism is way too much. I guess im just wondering if I should go with a solid red dot or a 1x prism instead. Thanks ya’ll!

 

[oldag]

It will be fine.

 

[studenygreg]

It will be fine. I've been doing it with a 4x acog for years

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[Byrd666]

How much of a discount is an awesome amount?

 

[Chewbacca7685]

Do they do first responder as well like Vortex and Primary Arms?


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[BeatTheTunaUp]

I have a 3x prism paired with a pistol reddot on an offset mount. All of it Primary Arms stuff that works together. The 3x is fine up close, but the zero is off. You can either aim an inch or 2 high or have a close range dot. Either works.

 

[toddnjoyce]

… dont hunt with it, its training and defense only...

What kind if training, especially max distance you expect to shoot.

If you think you’ll ever be shooting at an 18” target greater than 100yds, I’d urge you to consider saving a bit more and getting a 1-6 LVPO instead of fixed prism.

Home defense is pretty much point and click distance, so keeping it at 1x and having the option yo throw out to 800 yds provides a versatility that’s way more functional than a fixed power prism, and this is coming from a guy with a decade and a half behind an ACOG or similar fixed power optic.

I currently run a 5x prism and an offset MRDO on my general purpose AR, but that’s because of my experience. In today’s world, I’d start from scratch with an FFP 1-6 LVPO.

 

[Darqhelmet]

What kind if training, especially max distance you expect to shoot.

If you think you’ll ever be shooting at an 18” target greater than 100yds, I’d urge you to consider saving a bit more and getting a 1-6 LVPO instead of fixed prism.

Home defense is pretty much point and click distance, so keeping it at 1x and having the option yo throw out to 800 yds provides a versatility that’s way more functional than a fixed power prism, and this is coming from a guy with a decade and a half behind an ACOG or similar fixed power optic.

I currently run a 5x prism and an offset MRDO on my general purpose AR, but that’s because of my experience. In today’s world, I’d start from scratch with an FFP 1-6 LVPO.

Prism 3x with an offset pistol dot.

Lpvo’s are heavy and have the same or worse issues at point blank. I have tried vortex, trijicon, and primary arms they are bad as scopes and worse as red dots for more weight and higher cost. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze for me.

 

[zackmars]

My most used optic is a 3.5x acog. Up close, like 10 yards you can basically point shoot, but i can also look through the optic, focus on the target, and as long as it's somewhere in the center, i can treat it almost like a ghost ring sight. Or you can get an MRDS and offset it.

I've tried LPVO's. Not my thing.

 

[EZ-E]

If you have stigmatizem the red dots look like a star burst.... I prefer etched reticle like prizm or LPVOs have. You get a nice crisp clear dot.

 

[GennadiyB]

How much of a discount is an awesome amount?

20%

 

[GennadiyB]

Do they do first responder as well like Vortex and Primary Arms?


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I am actually not too sure, but i believe so. I hear really good things about their products, trying to get in before prices go up

 

[GennadiyB]

If you have stigmatizem the red dots look like a star burst.... I prefer etched reticle like prizm or LPVOs have. You get a nice crisp clear dot.

Yup im going for a prism because of my astigmatism

 

[Chewbacca7685]

I am actually not too sure, but i believe so. I hear really good things about their products, trying to get in before prices go up

Looks like just Leo and mil but that’s ok. I still have their 1x prism on my list to replace the cheapo on my mk9. Should help with the astigmatism.


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[GennadiyB]

If you have stigmatizem the red dots look like a star burst.... I prefer etched reticle like prizm or LPVOs have. You get a nice crisp clear dot.

Yup im going for a prism because of my astigmatism

What kind if training, especially max distance you expect to shoot.

If you think you’ll ever be shooting at an 18” target greater than 100yds, I’d urge you to consider saving a bit more and getting a 1-6 LVPO instead of fixed prism.

Home defense is pretty much point and click distance, so keeping it at 1x and having the option yo throw out to 800 yds provides a versatility that’s way more functional than a fixed power prism, and this is coming from a guy with a decade and a half behind an ACOG or similar fixed power optic.

I currently run a 5x prism and an offset MRDO on my general purpose AR, but that’s because of my experience. In today’s world, I’d start from scratch with an FFP 1-6 LVPO.

thank you, solid advice

 

[zackmars]

The problem with LPVOs is that they are kinda neither fish nor fowl. At 1x they are not red dots, and at max magnification, they aren't prisms and they aren't MPVOs.

They are heavier, have tighter FOV, and people are chasing magnification over size and weight.

My VCOG is like 32oz. My ACOG is 14. On a general purpose 5.56, i don't feel the extra 4.5X is worth the extra weight.

Now on an SPR? i can see some justification