Houston police: 4 officers wounded, 2 of 3 suspects dead

jordanmills

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It was not the dog. Dogs that live inside tend to chill next to their people. Dog was taken out when Nichols was. One of the murdered people in that house were not quite murdered when that shot was heard.
I am sure they were 100% murdered after the shot.
Depends on how long after the break-in the shot was made. I'm having trouble finding sources now, but I know I read (somewhere more reliable than reddit) that Tuttle was heard calling for help while they kept the area closed off claiming they were looking for a third suspect.

https://www.reddit.com/r/houston/co...t_shooting_questions/?st=k3apj9pr&sh=ccc1ae9b

HPD waits two hours before reentering the house. Reports from this time period state the Dennis Tuttle was screaming for help and calling for his wife (she never answered). HPD allowed him to bleed to death before entering the house. A SWAT officer is reported to have shot Dennis Tuttle’s body twice more as the SWAT team entered.
Reading more of the autopsy report, it isn't stated as such, but one of the gun shot wounds to Tuttle is an "execution shot" to the back of the head, straight through to the face. A little lower than it should be, but these weren't the most competent goons. Yes, it is possible that the point of entry and direction of the shot is coincidence and he was falling or laying at the right angle for it to be from one of many shots in a firefight.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5986464/KPRC2-Watermark-Dennis-Tuttle-Autopsy.pdf
 
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andre3k

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There's body camera footage out there. Not from the assault team that made entry but from the patrol officers that should have been there to hold the perimeter while the raid was going on. Typically there are always uniformed officers in marked patrol cars present when a no knock warrant is ran. All HPD uniformed officers are issued BWC's.

It's a shame they won't release the video because it will shed some light on what happened. HPD has made a point of not releasing BWC video for ANYTHING. Not even when officers do a good job. I don't think they want to set a precendent of releasing video and so far it has worked.

I can certainly see a scenario where the leadership would attempt to prevent a video like that from being released, especially if it makes the dept look bad.

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andre3k

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For those who hadn't seen it, here is some video clips from one of the neighbors. Around 1:50 you hear the late gunshots.

Those Explorers in front of the house are the marked units I was referring to in my post. Those officers all have BWC video that hasn't been released yet (and might never be released).

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deemus

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For those who hadn't seen it, here is some video clips from one of the neighbors. Around 1:50 you hear the late gunshots.

Cops were already shot when the guy on the speaker is telling them to turn on a light. What the hell is going on there?
 

toddnjoyce

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About time. Curious if Goines was doing the ‘mom’ who turned out not to be. And how many times the ‘mom’ had informed on others who were eventually ‘investigated’ by Goines.

“Federal prosecutors said Goines ... had an ongoing sexual relationship with a confidential informant, a violation of Houston Police Department policy.”
 
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