No judgement here either.I was gonna just let this thread die, considering the drama it caused, but I figure since I started it, I needed to at least give an answer as to what my decision was. I got the vaccine. Not sure if it was the “right” thing to do personally, but having 2 kids that still rely on my heath/dental/vision benefits (and to be honest, anyone with kids will understand, all 4 of my kids seem to need other financial help more often than I like!), it was financially beneficial to do it. The other places I considered going to, were going to pay less, have worse benefit packages, and 2 of the places I looked at made mention of similar vaccine mandates. I did get a pretty big raise, by telling management I was leaving, although that was offered after I got the first dose of the vaccine, but before I told the company. Even after I got the first dose, I had told my department head, that I still wasn’t 100% on my decision, but that I was not happy with my job, and the mandate was probably the push I needed to leave. An hour later I was called in and offered a substantial raise to stay. As it turns out, I was one of the last 2 holdouts in my department. The other one, is 65, and eligible for retirement, so he says he’s submitting his paperwork December 31st. Not sure if this decision makes me a “sellout “ or what, but I don’t feel great about it. Guess it just is what is now.
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I am looking at job postings almost daily now. I came across the first one yesterday that I have seen that included "must provide proof of Covid-19 vaccination to begin employment". Job was not of interest, so whatever, I guess.We've had a couple people interview in our dept this week. Their hospitals are requiring them to get vaccinated.
Sounds reasonable, if you really like the job , then I suggest that you sit down with the employer and discuss the court situation then agree to get the jab if the courts decide it is legal to require it but do not waive legal action from any side effects.I am looking at job postings almost daily now. I came across the first one yesterday that I have seen that included "must provide proof of Covid-19 vaccination to begin employment". Job was not of interest, so whatever, I guess.
I really struggle to understand why companies are going full tilt crazy on this stuff. It becomes more obvious every day that the vax is not silver bullet, has substantial risks, and there are very effective and affordable treatments for when you get the WuFlu.
Also, the vax manufacturers have been given immunity from liability, but does that extend to an employer that forces you to get it? Seems like they are putting themselves in a very risky position. Can you say "class action"?
Good luck with that lawsuit.Sounds reasonable, if you really like the job , then I suggest that you sit down with the employer and discuss the court situation then agree to get the jab if the courts decide it is legal to require it but do not waive legal action from any side effects.
I was gonna just let this thread die, considering the drama it caused, but I figure since I started it, I needed to at least give an answer as to what my decision was. I got the vaccine. Not sure if it was the “right” thing to do personally, but having 2 kids that still rely on my heath/dental/vision benefits (and to be honest, anyone with kids will understand, all 4 of my kids seem to need other financial help more often than I like!), it was financially beneficial to do it. The other places I considered going to, were going to pay less, have worse benefit packages, and 2 of the places I looked at made mention of similar vaccine mandates. I did get a pretty big raise, by telling management I was leaving, although that was offered after I got the first dose of the vaccine, but before I told the company. Even after I got the first dose, I had told my department head, that I still wasn’t 100% on my decision, but that I was not happy with my job, and the mandate was probably the push I needed to leave. An hour later I was called in and offered a substantial raise to stay. As it turns out, I was one of the last 2 holdouts in my department. The other one, is 65, and eligible for retirement, so he says he’s submitting his paperwork December 31st. Not sure if this decision makes me a “sellout “ or what, but I don’t feel great about it. Guess it just is what is now.
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I was gonna just let this thread die, considering the drama it caused, but I figure since I started it, I needed to at least give an answer as to what my decision was. I got the vaccine. Not sure if it was the “right” thing to do personally, but having 2 kids that still rely on my heath/dental/vision benefits (and to be honest, anyone with kids will understand, all 4 of my kids seem to need other financial help more often than I like!), it was financially beneficial to do it. The other places I considered going to, were going to pay less, have worse benefit packages, and 2 of the places I looked at made mention of similar vaccine mandates. I did get a pretty big raise, by telling management I was leaving, although that was offered after I got the first dose of the vaccine, but before I told the company. Even after I got the first dose, I had told my department head, that I still wasn’t 100% on my decision, but that I was not happy with my job, and the mandate was probably the push I needed to leave. An hour later I was called in and offered a substantial raise to stay. As it turns out, I was one of the last 2 holdouts in my department. The other one, is 65, and eligible for retirement, so he says he’s submitting his paperwork December 31st. Not sure if this decision makes me a “sellout “ or what, but I don’t feel great about it. Guess it just is what is now.
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I am looking at job postings almost daily now. I came across the first one yesterday that I have seen that included "must provide proof of Covid-19 vaccination to begin employment". Job was not of interest, so whatever, I guess.
I really struggle to understand why companies are going full tilt crazy on this stuff. It becomes more obvious every day that the vax is no silver bullet, has substantial risks, and there are very effective and affordable treatments for when you get the WuFlu.
Also, the vax manufacturers have been given immunity from liability, but does that extend to an employer that forces you to get it? Seems like they are putting themselves in a very risky position. Can you say "class action"?
You are not a sell out. You have no one to be loyal to but yourself.
If we had a gov like DeSantis instead of Abbott we might have a state law against employer mandates. Florida does.Here's one major reason...the Federal government is mandating it!
I started a new job within the DoD on 1 Dec. One of the first conditions of employment was being fully vaccinated.
As for your class action lawsuit claim, good luck with that! Their job, their rules; and if it doesn't violate state and Federal employment laws, they have every right to require what they wish!
I thought Abbott wanted this but legislators killed it.If we had a gov like DeSantis instead of Abbott we might have a state law against employer mandates. Florida does.
I was gonna just let this thread die, considering the drama it caused, but I figure since I started it, I needed to at least give an answer as to what my decision was. I got the vaccine. Not sure if it was the “right” thing to do personally, but having 2 kids that still rely on my heath/dental/vision benefits (and to be honest, anyone with kids will understand, all 4 of my kids seem to need other financial help more often than I like!), it was financially beneficial to do it. The other places I considered going to, were going to pay less, have worse benefit packages, and 2 of the places I looked at made mention of similar vaccine mandates. I did get a pretty big raise, by telling management I was leaving, although that was offered after I got the first dose of the vaccine, but before I told the company. Even after I got the first dose, I had told my department head, that I still wasn’t 100% on my decision, but that I was not happy with my job, and the mandate was probably the push I needed to leave. An hour later I was called in and offered a substantial raise to stay. As it turns out, I was one of the last 2 holdouts in my department. The other one, is 65, and eligible for retirement, so he says he’s submitting his paperwork December 31st. Not sure if this decision makes me a “sellout “ or what, but I don’t feel great about it. Guess it just is what is now.
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If Abbott wanted it, he would call a special session. He's just giving lip service and hoping it fools voters in the primary.....I thought Abbott wanted this but legislators killed it.
So far there have been seven challenges resulting in stays for every Biden mandate except the Fed employee mandate; quietly, the administration has changed tactics to state there is no punitive action available for fed employees who are not compliant.
It appears the only legal options available are to collect vaccine status and to have different rules for vaccinated employees vs unvaccinated. That decision is being challenged in courts as well.
Navy and Marine Corps already passed their deadline with the same threats before hand. Then the press went silent. Last article I was able to find said folks "might not" be able to re-enlist when it's time. No talk of discharge or loss of rank or NJP that I've seen.Except in the military...
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