Can one CC at the Cowboy's stadium in Dallas?

[popsgarland]

They're playing now, and the game is blacked out here.

I have it on. Be glad your not watching.

 

[leVieux]

Cowboys stadium has a special gate for all LEO's and Feds to check in when they are carrying. Texas law forbids the NFL to bar their entry and provides a $1000 fine for every person that they do bar.

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Great news !

Thanks !

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[toddnjoyce]

Here you go:

Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:
(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; or
(B) the person possesses or goes with a concealed handgun that the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and no other weapon to which this section applies, on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education, on any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of the institution;

Collegiate sporting event is the specific 46.03 prohibition.

 

[SARGE67]

Although I'm LTC plus the CC in Texas as it is, I don't carry each time I leave the house, depending on where I'm going of course and the route. I realize anything can happen at anywhere even down the street, but who wants to live a life in paranoia ??

 

[Sasquatch]

Moral of this whole story - we need to red-line thru a shitload of the statutes, and get rid of these bullshit built in prohibitions like sporting events and other such gatherings and put the onus on any private business wanting to bar otherwise legal carry to provide armed security with safe storage for any weapons they don't want in OR they're assuming 100% of the liability for the safety of all such persons visiting the establishments. Turn the tables on the banners and make them the responsible parties in the event someone who *could* have protected themselves with a weapon gets harmed (and lets go with the banners perspective - emotional harm is as valid as physical harm, so even if all the bad man does is scare you - you get paid)

If you're a public accomodation, you shouldn't be banning the public from carrying period. Government facilities aside from high security, honest to god sensitive areas ala prisons, military installations, and *maybe* the chambers of congress and in federal court rooms (unless given permission by the presiding judge) should be open to public carry. What good is a "right" to carry if you can't actually carry anywhere you need to go? The option of staying home and being a hermit, or being compelled to disarm is a shit choice.

 

[ScottDLS]

Collegiate sporting event is the specific 46.03 prohibition.

ScottDLS said:
Here you go:

Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED.
(a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, location-restricted knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):
(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless:
(A) pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution; or
(B) the person possesses or goes with a concealed handgun that the person is licensed to carry under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code, and no other weapon to which this section applies, on the premises of an institution of higher education or private or independent institution of higher education, on any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by the institution is being conducted, or in a passenger transportation vehicle of the institution;


You COMMIT AN OFFENSE (under 46.03) UNLESS you GO(ES) WITH A CONCEALED HANDGUN ... so you do NOT commit an offense.

Have to read the whole section.

 

[leVieux]

Post the relevant statute, since I quoted directly from the post-HB1927 rewrite of TPC46.

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As a recently retired U of Texas Faculty back then, I still got some “campus news”.

Of course the Pissant Professors were having a tissie fit.

But then,

The very first incident on-campus @ Austin involved an early 20’s Vet who had a “CL” but had left his pistol in vehicle nearby.

There was an actual terror incident in which a foreigner used a big knife to fatally stab someone, then ran screaming, seeking other victims. The Vet saw, grabbed his pistol from car, and held the BG for police, no shot fired.

After that, an obvious life-saving intervention by a legally armed student, crickets from the Pissants.

I haven’t heard anything on this since.

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[leVieux]

Moral of this whole story - we need to red-line thru a shitload of the statutes, and get rid of these bullshit built in prohibitions like sporting events and other such gatherings and put the onus on any private business wanting to bar otherwise legal carry to provide armed security with safe storage for any weapons they don't want in OR they're assuming 100% of the liability for the safety of all such persons visiting the establishments. Turn the tables on the banners and make them the responsible parties in the event someone who *could* have protected themselves with a weapon gets harmed (and lets go with the banners perspective - emotional harm is as valid as physical harm, so even if all the bad man does is scare you - you get paid)

If you're a public accomodation, you shouldn't be banning the public from carrying period. Government facilities aside from high security, honest to god sensitive areas ala prisons, military installations, and *maybe* the chambers of congress and in federal court rooms (unless given permission by the presiding judge) should be open to public carry. What good is a "right" to carry if you can't actually carry anywhere you need to go? The option of staying home and being a hermit, or being compelled to disarm is a shit choice.

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I agree with you 100%.

But, some on here hold that private property rights are supreme, over all other citizens’ rights.

While I support property rights for property kept PRIVATE; I see a big conflict when the owner allows, invites, solicits, or even as in your case, actually advertises & CHARGES the public to enter.

There is no provision under our Constitution or Law requiring one to “Check their rights at the door.”

This is a “conflict of rights” and cannot always be one-way.

The simple response would be total boycott, but many citizens can’t grasp the seriousness of allowing rights to be trampled by “business interests” +/or their “legal advisors”.

Any waivers printed on tickets or signs have little or no legal authority. An old Lawyer friend used to say: “Day 1 lessons in Law School; One cannot legislate with. a sign. And, “set-guns’’ are ALWAYS WRONG !’

So, we need officeholders with ‘nads, who will stand-up for Us the People and for our Constitution !

Prepare to be pilloried by the “Property Rights are always Supreme” crowd.

leVieux

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[Sasquatch]

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I agree with you 100%.

But, some on here hold that private property rights are supreme, over all other citizens’ rights.

While I support property rights for property kept PRIVATE; I see a big conflict when the owner allows, invites, solicits, or even as in your case, actually advertises & CHARGES the public to enter.

There is no provision under our Constitution or Law requiring one to “Check their rights at the door.”

This is a “conflict of rights” and cannot always be one-way.

The simple response would be total boycott, but many citizens can’t grasp the seriousness of allowing rights to be trampled by “business interests” +/or their “legal advisors”.

Any waivers printed on tickets or signs have little or no legal authority. An old Lawyer friend used to say: “Day 1 lessons in Law School; One cannot legislate with. a sign. And, “set-guns’’ are ALWAYS WRONG !’

So, we need officeholders with ‘nads, who will stand-up for Us the People and for our Constitution !

Prepare to be pilloried by the “Property Rights are always Supreme” crowd.

leVieux

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Private property not open to the public is one thing - but any private business or entity that welcomes the public - should be held to the same standard as public property when it comes to exercising one's right to carry, just the same as they have to adhere to other non-discrimination policies, laws, or regulations.

You want to make your home unwelcome to people carrying, OK. You want to make your private business that does *not* welcome the public for walk-in business a no-carry zone? Fine. But if you want to hang a shingle out and offer services or goods to the people and have them come in and out of your business regularly then you shouldn't be discriminating against someone exercising a constitutionally recognized and protected right.

If rights have boundaries - such as one's right to carry in defense of themselves, then so must property rights have boundaries.

 

[leVieux]

Private property not open to the public is one thing - but any private business or entity that welcomes the public - should be held to the same standard as public property when it comes to exercising one's right to carry, just the same as they have to adhere to other non-discrimination policies, laws, or regulations.

You want to make your home unwelcome to people carrying, OK. You want to make your private business that does *not* welcome the public for walk-in business a no-carry zone? Fine. But if you want to hang a shingle out and offer services or goods to the people and have them come in and out of your business regularly then you shouldn't be discriminating against someone exercising a constitutionally recognized and protected right.

If rights have boundaries - such as one's right to carry in defense of themselves, then so must property rights have boundaries.

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EXACKERLY !

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[glens]

Never go anywhere, including Church with Wifey every once in a while, without at least a gun in my boot. F um ,, unless they have a metal detector.

 

[Tnhawk]

So is a Cowboys game considered a professional event?

That's questionable.