Because this went SOOO well the FIRST time we talked about it...

[West Texas]

Statement on the Proposed “Cordoba House”
Mosque near Ground Zero​

Newt Gingrich​

July 21, 2010 6pm​

There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia . The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.​

The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. ​

For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba , Spain – the capital of Muslim
conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.​

Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith operation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.​

Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City . Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia . In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca . And they lecture us about tolerance.​

If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign. ​

We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million megamosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating
surprise attack in American history. ​

Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources. America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.​

No mosque.​

No self deception.​

No surrender.​

The time to take a stand is now - ​

at this site ​

on this issue.​

http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/newt-gingrich-statement-proposed-mosqueislamic-community-center-near-ground-zero​

 

[fnmedallion]

Statement on the Proposed “Cordoba House”
Mosque near Ground Zero​

Newt Gingrich​

July 21, 2010 6pm​

There should be no mosque near Ground Zero in New York so long as there are no churches or synagogues in Saudi Arabia . The time for double standards that allow Islamists to behave aggressively toward us while they demand our weakness and submission is over.​

The proposed "Cordoba House" overlooking the World Trade Center site – where a group of jihadists killed over 3000 Americans and destroyed one of our most famous landmarks - is a test of the timidity, passivity and historic ignorance of American elites. ​

For example, most of them don’t understand that “Cordoba House” is a deliberately insulting term. It refers to Cordoba , Spain – the capital of Muslim
conquerors who symbolized their victory over the Christian Spaniards by transforming a church there into the world’s third-largest mosque complex.​

Today, some of the Mosque’s backers insist this term is being used to "symbolize interfaith operation" when, in fact, every Islamist in the world recognizes Cordoba as a symbol of Islamic conquest. It is a sign of their contempt for Americans and their confidence in our historic ignorance that they would deliberately insult us this way.​

Those Islamists and their apologists who argue for "religious toleration" are arrogantly dishonest. They ignore the fact that more than 100 mosques already exist in New York City . Meanwhile, there are no churches or synagogues in all of Saudi Arabia . In fact no Christian or Jew can even enter Mecca . And they lecture us about tolerance.​

If the people behind the Cordoba House were serious about religious toleration, they would be imploring the Saudis, as fellow Muslims, to immediately open up Mecca to all and immediately announce their intention to allow non-Muslim houses of worship in the Kingdom. They should be asked by the news media if they would be willing to lead such a campaign. ​

We have not been able to rebuild the World Trade Center in nine years. Now we are being told a 13 story, $100 million megamosque will be built within a year overlooking the site of the most devastating
surprise attack in American history. ​

Finally where is the money coming from? The people behind the Cordoba House refuse to reveal all their funding sources. America is experiencing an Islamist cultural-political offensive designed to undermine and destroy our civilization. Sadly, too many of our elites are the willing apologists for those who would destroy them if they could.​

No mosque.​

No self deception.​

No surrender.​

The time to take a stand is now - ​

at this site ​

on this issue.​

http://www.newt.org/newt-direct/newt-gingrich-statement-proposed-mosqueislamic-community-center-near-ground-zero​

letem put it up it'll come down

 

[West Texas]

letem put it up it'll come down

now now now...that's not a very tolerant attitude to have...however, if it were full of radicals when it happened...hmmmm....

 

[skinman]

No churches of any kind near Ground Zero...none, nada, zip. Christian, Muslim...same-same intolerance. Ban em all.

And, while we are at it, lets give the government the power to tell us all what we can do with our own land, what we can say about religious figures, what we can pray about and where we can do it...

Oh, and I cannot let this one go by without bringing up the fact that while Newt Gingrich, who continues to campaign on family values issues, was leading the witch hunt against Clinton for having an affair with Monica and crucifying him daily on the immorality of having an affair and lying about it and pushing impeachment, was also married and in the middle of a long-term sweet affair with a woman 20 years his junior at the same time...talk about conservative hypocrisy...this one is classic.

One thing to cheer is that if conservatives are once again listening to anything this lying polecat says, then continued control of Congress by the Democrats is assured.

 

[texas skeeter]

then continued control of Congress by the Democrats is assured.

as I sit here and SERIOUSLY LAUGH AT YOU for this statement all i can say is see you in NOV!! Hey skin, how about a lil or BIG wager as to your REDICULOUS PREDICTION of congress not changing hands this yr???? just name it lil buddy!!

 

[Texasjack]

Is there a book of cliches for Democrats? (Maybe "Leftist Cliches for Dummies"?) Web site?

I say that 'cause I keep seeing the same crap over and over again. "...witch hunt against Clinton.." (that would be Bill, not Hillary as one doesn't need to hunt for that particular witch), "..Bushes fault.." (as applied to the economy, weather, planetary alignment, viruses, tsunamis, etc.), "..Nazi.. " (as applied to nearly anything, like "You want lower taxes because you're a Nazi!"), "..neocon.." (which has been used out of context so much that I doubt it still has any meaning, though it usually hints that the subject is pro-Israel), "..racist.." (which is kinda funny being applied to the Party of Lincoln and has become used for any level of leftist frustration, such as, "You want lower taxes because you're a racist!"), "...the election was stolen from Gore..." (which is patently absurd, a fact that was proven by newspapers - left leaning papers at that - who paid to have ballots privately counted after the election. Besides, would anyone REALLY want Al Gore running the government? Seriously!?), and - a personal favorite - "...PALIN...!" (which sorta translates as "OMG! I'm having an aneurysm! The conservatives have a hot looking chick with a gun and we have Pelosi! Aaaackkk!")

Just sayin' that it would be really nice if you could maybe get an updated book or web site and expand the vocabulary a bit. There have to be other people with tin foil on their heads who can turn out new ideas. You don't have to completely change and like use 'facts' or anything boring like that. There are lots of loony leftists in Hollywood - maybe they could help. Or maybe that "Lee" that took over the Discovery Channel. Now he's got some ideas you can run with!!

 

[MR Redneck]

as I sit here and SERIOUSLY LAUGH AT YOU for this statement all i can say is see you in NOV!! Hey skin, how about a lil or BIG wager as to your REDICULOUS PREDICTION of congress not changing hands this yr???? just name it lil buddy!!

I want some of that bet!! If Republican dont win, i'll also bet The Shit will Be Hitting The Fan real quick!
Well, im being tarded. If, I mean when the Republicans take control of the GOP, the shit will still hit the fan because Im pretty sure Obama will be getting impeached!

 

[Texasjack]

I don't know about betting against Skinman, Skeeter. There are still plenty of people that think socialism is the right way to go and that the worse things get, the more government we need. He's not unique in that respect. (Just in that he doesn't think the same folks he supports are anti-gun.)

Besides, the Republicans have absolutely nothing positive to offer. While the Marxists have been using the Constitution like it was printed on Charmin, the Republicans have been negotiating to carve out whatever spoils they can get from this incredibly bloated government expansion.

Libertarians? Might as well be Librarians. Too few, too unorganized, and too confusing of a message.

The Democrats would lose votes if they changed the name of the party to reflect their current leadership, but the Communist Party already has rights to the name and they would definitely sue to prevent being associated with the sleaziness of Pelosi, Schumer, Waters, Jackson Lee, Rangel, etc. They will lose some seats, but the sitting party almost always does in mid-terms.

My advice for November is: "Prepare to be disappointed."

 

[texas skeeter]

My advice for November is: "Prepare to be disappointed."

I hear ya, but im an Optimist!! and since the DUMOTERDS have Pissed Off the AMERCIAN PEOPLE and F-CKED damn near EVERYTHING UP to the gazillionth degree i like my odds!!atriot: not to mention the polls ALL SUGGEST it and have proven right with DAMN GOOD ACCURACY in the past!!

 

[skinman]

I am just saying that if idiots like Newt and Palin are the best the neocons can put up, then it ain't looking good for them...but, we'll just have to wait until November, now won't we...but, frankly, the Repuglicans have not shown anything new to vote for...same old bullshit politics that got us into this mess in the first place...so, sometimes it comes down to, "better the Devil you know..." That kept Bush in office another term.

And, if the rightists loose again, I am sure that they will try to steal another election one way or another, and if they actually win (even a blind hog can root up an acorn occasionally) and once again try to drag another president down like they did Clinton instead of taking care of the business of fixing the mess they created the last time they were in power, then they won't be there for long.

 

[M. Sage]

I am just saying that if idiots like Newt and Palin are the best the neocons can put up, then it ain't looking good for them...but, we'll just have to wait until November, now won't we...but, frankly, the Repuglicans have not shown anything new to vote for...same old bullshit politics that got us into this mess in the first place...so, sometimes it comes down to, "better the Devil you know..." That kept Bush in office another term.

And, if the rightists loose again, I am sure that they will try to steal another election one way or another, and if they actually win (even a blind hog can root up an acorn occasionally) and once again try to drag another president down like they did Clinton instead of taking care of the business of fixing the mess they created the last time they were in power, then they won't be there for long.

Clarify, please.

Also, neocons are not right-wing. They're leftists. I don't think that Palin is necessarily a neocon, but she is at least a sellout (she lost my support the instant she endorsed McCain for reelection).

Unfortunately, dragging Obama down is about the only way we're going to get to the real business of fixing the problems with our country. Obama is actively working to make things worse. A lot of folks assume it's because he's a moron, and I used to think the same. Others think he's a socialist ideologue, which I thought for a while, too (this would also qualify him under "moron"), but that's not true, either. He's in it for the power, and he honestly doesn't care who gets crushed in his pursuit of it. I knew Hillary was like that, but Obama hides it a lot better than she does...

 

[texas skeeter]

(even a blind hog can root up an acorn occasionally)

OH you mean just like the "ACORN" that FRAUDULENTLY helped get O-JACKA$$ and that MORON in Minnestoa elected??????? the same "ACORN" group that is being investigated in about 25 states???????????

 

[texas skeeter]

Clarify, please.

Also, neocons are not right-wing. They're leftists. I don't think that Palin is necessarily a neocon, but she is at least a sellout (she lost my support the instant she endorsed McCain for reelection).

Unfortunately, dragging Obama down is about the only way we're going to get to the real business of fixing the problems with our country. Obama is actively working to make things worse. A lot of folks assume it's because he's a moron, and I used to think the same. Others think he's a socialist ideologue, which I thought for a while, too (this would also qualify him under "moron"), but that's not true, either. He's in it for the power, and he honestly doesn't care who gets crushed in his pursuit of it. I knew Hillary was like that, but Obama hides it a lot better than she does...

DAMN!! my thoughts EXACTLY!! especially the Palin comment. when she gave support to that A$$WIPE McCain, she lost ALL MY RESPECT!!!!! cause that OLD FLIPFLOP JACKA$$ needs to go!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he has hurt this country JUST AS BAD AS HARRY REID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[SiscoKid]

Mr. Skin repeats...

I am just saying that if idiots like Newt and Palin are the best the neocons can put up, then it ain't looking good for them...but, we'll just have to wait until November, now won't we...but, frankly, the Repuglicans have not shown anything new to vote for...same old bullshit politics that got us into this mess in the first place...so, sometimes it comes down to, "better the Devil you know..." That kept Bush in office another term.

And, if the rightists loose again, I am sure that they will try to steal another election one way or another, and if they actually win (even a blind hog can root up an acorn occasionally) and once again try to drag another president down like they did Clinton instead of taking care of the business of fixing the mess they created the last time they were in power, then they won't be there for long.

I'm on forums all day long having "discussions" with liberals who repeat the same mantras over and over and over. "Bush lied about WMD's, Bush responsible for hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths, Bush doctored the data, Bush inherited a surplus, tax cuts for the rich led to deficits, unemployment skyrocketed, Bush, Bush, Bush........." They are relentless, they never quit, they pop over to Huffpuff then come back, reinvigorated, re indoctrinated.

Mostly they want to Rewrite the 90's. They want to forget all the hits we took, Slick Willie's favorite saying, vowing to "leave no stone unturned...". They don't want to remember how Klinton actually coined the term, WMD, how he actually bombed Iraq to get Saddam's "Chemical Weapons". He went into Kosovo going completely around the UN, which is probably why Bush took so much time doing it the right way.

I know, get to the point.

I think Newt is smart but he's not presidential material. He's dull as paint and couldn't draw a crowd if he was passing out gold dollars. He's probably the second smartest guy I have seen, next to Karl Rove. He's definitely Cabinet material.

Sarah Palin is the real deal. I first picked up on her early in 08, going to the Alaska State website, she was featured with all her moose trophies, her life history was there for the whole world to see. Face it, who would a viral male rather look at? Her or Hitlery or Peelosi or Boxer or????

She scares the Bejebuss out of liberals. They must take her and try to crush her. Every time I flip over to MSNBC they are using her latest speech and having two obscure liberals rehashing her every word. It's probably helping their ratings. Chrissy Hissy should rename his show, "Palinball".

Repugs are seeing a resurgence because the voters are waking up to the policies of the Obammy administration. They not only see that it's not working right now, there is no way it will get better with the policies they are proposing. They way they handled Obama Care, the underhanded way they passed it, then celebrating as if they had captured Mount Suribachi, people have not forgotten that.

Not one single election has ever been "stolen" by Repugs. But, the demo's attempt to steal 2000, their successful steal of Washington State in 06, and stealing the Minnesota senate election for Stuart Smalley .......... that is the true facts of that rant.

It ain't gonna get any better ...... for democrats.

 

[West Texas]

Mr. Skin repeats...



I'm on forums all day long having "discussions" with liberals who repeat the same mantras over and over and over. "Bush lied about WMD's, Bush responsible for hundreds of thousands of innocent deaths, Bush doctored the data, Bush inherited a surplus, tax cuts for the rich led to deficits, unemployment skyrocketed, Bush, Bush, Bush........." They are relentless, they never quit, they pop over to Huffpuff then come back, reinvigorated, re indoctrinated.

Mostly they want to Rewrite the 90's. They want to forget all the hits we took, Slick Willie's favorite saying, vowing to "leave no stone unturned...". They don't want to remember how Klinton actually coined the term, WMD, how he actually bombed Iraq to get Saddam's "Chemical Weapons". He went into Kosovo going completely around the UN, which is probably why Bush took so much time doing it the right way.

I know, get to the point.

I think Newt is smart but he's not presidential material. He's dull as paint and couldn't draw a crowd if he was passing out gold dollars. He's probably the second smartest guy I have seen, next to Karl Rove. He's definitely Cabinet material.

Sarah Palin is the real deal. I first picked up on her early in 08, going to the Alaska State website, she was featured with all her moose trophies, her life history was there for the whole world to see. Face it, who would a viral male rather look at? Her or Hitlery or Peelosi or Boxer or????

She scares the Bejebuss out of liberals. They must take her and try to crush her. Every time I flip over to MSNBC they are using her latest speech and having two obscure liberals rehashing her every word. It's probably helping their ratings. Chrissy Hissy should rename his show, "Palinball".

Repugs are seeing a resurgence because the voters are waking up to the policies of the Obammy administration. They not only see that it's not working right now, there is no way it will get better with the policies they are proposing. They way they handled Obama Care, the underhanded way they passed it, then celebrating as if they had captured Mount Suribachi, people have not forgotten that.

Not one single election has ever been "stolen" by Repugs. But, the demo's attempt to steal 2000, their successful steal of Washington State in 06, and stealing the Minnesota senate election for Stuart Smalley .......... that is the true facts of that rant.

It ain't gonna get any better ...... for democrats.

+1

 

[Fisherman777]

I think Newt is smart but he's not presidential material. He's dull as paint and couldn't draw a crowd if he was passing out gold dollars. He's probably the second smartest guy I have seen, next to Karl Rove. He's definitely Cabinet material.

Which one? Newt or Karl?

Sarah Palin is the real deal. I first picked up on her early in 08, going to the Alaska State website, she was featured with all her moose trophies, her life history was there for the whole world to see. Face it, who would a viral male rather look at? Her or Hitlery or Peelosi or Boxer or????

Oh yeah. I agree.

She scares the Bejebuss out of liberals. They must take her and try to crush her. Every time I flip over to MSNBC they are using her latest speech and having two obscure liberals rehashing her every word. It's probably helping their ratings. Chrissy Hissy should rename his show, "Palinball".

Repugs are seeing a resurgence because the voters are waking up to the policies of the Obammy administration. They not only see that it's not working right now, there is no way it will get better with the policies they are proposing. They way they handled Obama Care, the underhanded way they passed it, then celebrating as if they had captured Mount Suribachi, people have not forgotten that.

I agree but please stop using the terms repugs and teabaggers. That last one especially. Just askin'.

Not one single election has ever been "stolen" by Repugs. But, the demo's attempt to steal 2000, their successful steal of Washington State in 06, and stealing the Minnesota senate election for Stuart Smalley .......... that is the true facts of that rant.

Right again!

It ain't gonna get any better ...... for democrats.

I agree again.

Let's pray for this country to turn back to God and sanity. Keep fighting!

 

[Fisherman777]

Just one problem with Sara Palin..... She NEVER calls me!

 

[West Texas]

originally posted by siscokid
i think newt is smart but he's not presidential material. He's dull as paint and couldn't draw a crowd if he was passing out gold dollars. He's probably the second smartest guy i have seen, next to karl rove. he's definitely cabinet material.

which one? Newt or karl?

sarah palin is the real deal. I first picked up on her early in 08, going to the alaska state website, she was featured with all her moose trophies, her life history was there for the whole world to see. Face it, who would a viral male rather look at? Her or hitlery or peelosi or boxer or????

oh yeah. I agree.

she scares the bejebuss out of liberals. They must take her and try to crush her. Every time i flip over to msnbc they are using her latest speech and having two obscure liberals rehashing her every word. It's probably helping their ratings. Chrissy hissy should rename his show, "palinball".

Repugs are seeing a resurgence because the voters are waking up to the policies of the obammy administration. They not only see that it's not working right now, there is no way it will get better with the policies they are proposing. They way they handled obama care, the underhanded way they passed it, then celebrating as if they had captured mount suribachi, people have not forgotten that.

i agree but please stop using the terms repugs and teabaggers. That last one especially. Just askin'.

not one single election has ever been "stolen" by repugs. But, the demo's attempt to steal 2000, their successful steal of washington state in 06, and stealing the minnesota senate election for stuart smalley .......... That is the true facts of that rant.

right again!

it ain't gonna get any better ...... For democrats.

i agree again.

Let's pray for this country to turn back to god and sanity. Keep fighting!​

amen!

 

[WarmAK47]

Didn't take long for the thread to get hijacked.

What happened to freedom of religion or private property? Let people worship what they want to on their own property. If the bldg doesn't violate zoning regs and the govt isn't building it, who cares?

 

[West Texas]

Didn't take long for the thread to get hijacked.

What happened to freedom of religion or private property? Let people worship what they want to on their own property. If the bldg doesn't violate zoning regs and the govt isn't building it, who cares?

Dude, did you even READ the OP? Building the mosque where they want to build it has NOTHING to do with building a place to worship and everything to do with slapping us in the face...