Army chooses Sig Sauer to build its Next Generation Squad Weapon

[kyletxria1911a1]

Can’t speak to what the crayon eaters do.

 

[Darqhelmet]

@MTA89 needs to enlighten us on the training standards

He’s a generation behind me if I remember correctly.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

It was KD to 500 with irons. Stupid really. We take that one shot one kill crap way to far. ITB had better more and practical fire and move training with poppers and covering each other during bounding with live ammo. Shit will teach you to keep your head down real quick.

Yep.live fire and live grenades adds some excitement to your life

 

[Darqhelmet]

Yep.live fire and live grenades adds some excitement to your life

Same with boxing. You know we don’t teach boxing anymore. Like just basic boxing.

 

[Darkpriest667]

well as soon as the barrels are available I'll probably be building an AR10 with upper to test this out.. I think someone here should so we can see what it's like to shoot. I know they have a bolt action in .277 fury now, but it's not the same as semi auto and we all know that.

 

[Darqhelmet]

It’s a 6mm / .270 caliber we know and have know for a long time that it’s ballistics are better at range than 5.56/.22 or 7.62/.308. It’s just math. what that will do to an AR10 might be interesting from a does the gun survive stand point.

 

[Big Green]

Marines have a brand new course of fire. Instead of starting at the 200yd line and working back to the 500, it now starts at the 500 and works forward like a firefight might. They’ve also taken out some of the old positions and changed what is done where. Marines also now have a Trijicon LPVO instead of the RCO (ACOG).

I wish I was still in just for range, it looks fun to me.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

It’s a 6mm / .270 caliber we know and have know for a long time that it’s ballistics are better at range than 5.56/.22 or 7.62/.308. It’s just math. what that will do to an AR10 might be interesting from a does the gun survive stand point.

imma gonna dance wit the one who brung me my 10

 

[Darqhelmet]

Marines have a brand new course of fire. Instead of starting at the 200yd line and working back to the 500, it now starts at the 500 and works forward like a firefight might. They’ve also taken out some of the old positions and changed what is done where. Marines also now have a Trijicon LPVO instead of the RCO (ACOG).

I wish I was still in just for range, it looks fun to me.

It’s just making the rifle heavier and heavier.

 

[Darkpriest667]

Marines have a brand new course of fire. Instead of starting at the 200yd line and working back to the 500, it now starts at the 500 and works forward like a firefight might. They’ve also taken out some of the old positions and changed what is done where. Marines also now have a Trijicon LPVO instead of the RCO (ACOG).

I wish I was still in just for range, it looks fun to me.

But I was just told in this very thread that our current weapon system is ineffective past 300m. Why would we train past that if our weapons can't do it?

Being sarcastic of course.

 

[Darqhelmet]

But I was just told in this very thread that our current weapon system is ineffective past 300m. Why would we train past that if our weapons can't do it?

Being sarcastic of course.

We also qualified with 20” barrels. Now I have no idea if everyone is running 14.5. While the IAR guys aren’t, but the rest I have no idea.

 

[Darqhelmet]

So I wonder if we are going to fail to force this on nato like last time and end with with some retarded oddball round.

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

L

It’s just making the rifle heavier and heavier.

Lugging the rifle and ruck.ammo and the ansallary shit Is a rough row to hoe

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

So I wonder if we are going to fail to force this on nato like last time and end with with some retarded oddball round.

Damn Nato I'm only worried about ours.

 

[tekiwap]

But I was just told in this very thread that our current weapon system is ineffective past 300m.

Really? Who said our current system is ineffective past 300m?

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Really? Who said our current system is ineffective past 300m?

My thoughts are if you don't want to die improvise overcome adapt if they don't go out 300.start there
And figure out how far.
I guess I'm a closet sociopath but truth is I don't want to die. I'm going to figure out how to kill you

 

[Big Green]

But I was just told in this very thread that our current weapon system is ineffective past 300m. Why would we train past that if our weapons can't do it?

Being sarcastic of course.

I don’t believe anyone said it was ineffective at that range just not optimal, especially with just red dots. The Marines have been training at 500yds for decades and didn’t get an optic until mid 2000s. I used a M16A2 with irons in boot and got a M16A4 with RCO (ACOG) a couple of years later. Could have gotten a M4 when I got promoted later but I liked the 20” barrel.

 

[oldag]

So I wonder if we are going to fail to force this on nato like last time and end with with some retarded oddball round.

Probably.

 

[TheDan]

But I was just told in this very thread that our current weapon system is ineffective past 300m.

I can personally confirm an M4gery is combat effective against prairie dogs at 500m.

 

[TheDan]

So I wonder if we are going to fail to force this on nato like last time and end with with some retarded oddball round.

Hot take... screw NATO