All of these anti-Constitutional Carry LTC instructors need to hear from us...

[gll]

I’m all for constitutional carry and canceling the LTC program all together. Have to admit I wish my name was on that list to piss off some of the Nancy Boys around here.


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Hey, maybe it's not yet too late, asshole...

 

[gll]

I think there's a difference between trying to destroy them, and Politely letting them know that we find their choice repulsive and offensive. Kind of a Matthew 18 deal, with the goal of peace, for those who know the reference.

I'm thinking they need to be destroyed...

 

[gll]

I was in the other camp a few years ago.....thought long and hard about it. With the wisdom found here on TGT.....

I Finally woke up to the fact the 2A wasn't written for the Government to restrict the people...

It was written to restrict Government from restricting the people......

Any compromise leads to lost rights......

I've posted it before and will again....

The hardest part of freedom is accepting the other folks right to exercise theirs....

...with all all the inherent risks that come to me by other people exercising their freedom.

 

[Axxe55]

I know what you are saying but these are small fry and not worthy of trying to destroy. There are big fish to go after. I just don’t feel as strong as some about trying to hurt these guys because their opinion is not my opinion. I don’t agree with their letter and that is as far as I will go. Hope constitutional carry passes. Sent multiple email to my congressman, got no response, he is a sponsor of the bill. Yeah!

Don't totally disagree with that sentiment. And it's not a matter of trying to destroy them, but voicing displeasure at that stance on this, especially if it's about losing revenue if this bill passes. Personally, I do find it rather repulsive, and even in way treasonous when someone would try and put a price on our rights and our freedoms.

 

[Rhino]

I'm thinking they need to be destroyed...

Then you have a similar problem to them, but we'll give you a pass for now, because that's how liberty works.

 

[V-Tach]

Lol....JP knows how to make an entrance......

 

[Jon Payne]

Lol....JP knows how to make an entrance......

I know right???


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[Jon Payne]

Yea being upset about fair weather “patriots” makes us nancy boys. Ok retard

Yeah, the way you responded it does indeed make you a Nancy Boy. Then again, I'm not the one upset. lol

 

[Jon Payne]

Hey, maybe it's not yet too late, asshole...

I've been called worse by a better class of people. LOL

 

[popper]

As most of the LTC 'class' is legal training, I'd consider it no big deal. For those wishing an LTC fine,no, just take the class. Not like it cost an arm and leg. Like the hunter training class, take it or not - but of value.

 

[benenglish]

I’m all for ... canceling the LTC program all together.

I have to disagree with this part of what you said. There are reasons to have an LTC that transcend just the ability to carry.

• In practical terms it serves as a background check (i.e. helps with 4473 processing) at a dealer.
• It serves as a background check for F2F sales with people who don't know me.
• 9 out of 10 times it makes for a more authoritative ID, such as when getting on a plane. (That 1 out of 10 cases where the person who looks at the ID decides you must be crazy because you own firearms is almost enough of a negative to cancel out this point...but not quite.)
• It makes international travel with a firearm easier.
• (ETA) Reciprocity with other states.

I'm looking forward to CC becoming law but I will still maintain my LTC.

ETA: JP, yes, I know you know all this. I'm just listing these items because we have plenty of noobs on board who haven't yet needed to think these things through.

 

[mongoose]

I have to disagree with this part of what you said. There are reasons to have an LTC that transcend just the ability to carry.

• In practical terms it serves as a background check (i.e. helps with 4473 processing) at a dealer.
• It serves as a background check for F2F sales with people who don't know me.
• 9 out of 10 times it makes for a more authoritative ID, such as when getting on a plane. (That 1 out of 10 cases where the person who looks at the ID decides you must be crazy because you own firearms is almost enough of a negative to cancel out this point...but not quite.)
• It makes international travel with a firearm easier.

I'm looking forward to CC becoming law but I will still maintain my LTC.

ETA: JP, yes, I know you know all this. I'm just listing these items because we have plenty of noobs on board who haven't yet needed to think these things through.

I have never had TSA accept my CHL/LTC as an ID to board a plane ( have tried it half a dozen times at different Airports in TX . ). Has only been accepted to by beer

 

[benenglish]

I have never had TSA accept my CHL/LTC as an ID to board a plane ( have tried it half a dozen times at different Airports in TX . ). Has only been accepted to by beer

The TSA does what the TSA does. They may well feel that because they are federal they don't have to pay attention to your LTC but the fact remains that it's a valid state-issued picture ID. You can use it to vote and for almost everything else that you use a DL as ID. I've used mine to get on a plane many times.

I've also had it thrown back at me by people who then treated me like a rabid leper and couldn't wait for my redneck, mass-murderer-wannabe ass to remove myself from their holy and enlightened presence.

So, as in all things, YMMV.

 

[Southpaw]

Texas LTC Instructors Distance Themselves From Letter Against Constitutional Carry

Did Texas Gun Sense submit a letter to the Texas legislature with forged signatures to oppose Constitutional Carry?

www.ammoland.com

 

[General Zod]

Texas LTC Instructors Distance Themselves From Letter Against Constitutional Carry

Did Texas Gun Sense submit a letter to the Texas legislature with forged signatures to oppose Constitutional Carry?

www.ammoland.com

I was just about to post this link. It seems that at least some of the LTC instructors listed did not, in fact, sign on to the letter. Sadly, though, some did. The letter appears to be the doing of one Raul Comacho, of "Safety Measures LLC" who is also a board member of "Gun Sense Texas"...which, as you'd expect from that idiotic name, is an anti-gun group.

 

[cygunner]

I was just about to post this link. It seems that at least some of the LTC instructors listed did not, in fact, sign on to the letter. Sadly, though, some did. The letter appears to be the doing of one Raul Comacho, of "Safety Measures LLC" who is also a board member of "Gun Sense Texas"...which, as you'd expect from that idiotic name, is an anti-gun group.

General Z: Guess that makes him some kind of switch hitter.

 

[Axxe55]

General Z: Guess that makes him some kind of switch hitter.

Nope. It makes him, and those that think like he does, hypocrites.

Just like the FUDD's.

 

[jordanmills]

Yeah, the way you responded it does indeed make you a Nancy Boy. Then again, I'm not the one upset. lol

You seem pretty upset.

 

[Jon Payne]

You seem pretty upset.

If you say so....


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[majormadmax]

The TSA does what the TSA does. They may well feel that because they are federal they don't have to pay attention to your LTC but the fact remains that it's a valid state-issued picture ID. You can use it to vote and for almost everything else that you use a DL as ID. I've used mine to get on a plane many times.

The Texas LTC does not qualify under the Federal REAL ID Act standards for entry into the secure areas of airports, which went into effect on 1 Oct 2020.

Federal Real ID Act | Department of Public Safety

www.dps.texas.gov

Texas residents will need REAL ID-compliant identification to fly starting October 1, 2020 | Transportation Security Administration

WACO & KILLEEN -- The Transportation Security Administration (TSA) and the Texas Department of Public Safety are reminding Texas residents that starting Oct. 1, 2020, travelers will need a REAL ID-compliant form of identification to board a flight at all U.S. airports. Texas has been issuing...

www.tsa.gov