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  • Randman

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    4:00 am, TSA pre-check, backpack scanned, backpack rescanned, TSA agent Call’s another one over “what do you see? It’s early and I want to make sure I’m not seeing things” as I stand and watch this begin to unfold. Enter APD, sir do you have any loaded or unloaded firearms in this backpack? Me: absolutely not. APD: do you own any firearms? Me: I own many firearms and the are locked up at home in my safe. APD begins to search backpack. As he pulls a holstered 9mm from my backpack, a panic begins to fall over me. My mouth opens wide, and I’m pretty sure I uttered “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me” APD: do you by chance have a CHL? Me: Yes sir. Hands CHL to Officer. APD: you are very lucky, law passed about a year ago allows for such a mistake. So we go downstairs, they run the firearm, all is good, small talk, then APD escorts me to the door and says have a nice day. I secure firearm in vehicle, go back to terminal and airline put me on a new flight, since I missed my scheduled flight. It takes a lot to shake me up, but this experience did it! Two weeks prior, the wife and I went on a road trip, so I threw the 9 in my backpack and forgot all about it. It happens, it can happen to you! This happened at the end of July, and I’ve flown twice since then, unfortunately on both flights No TSA pre-check on boarding pass. I have Global Entry which comes with TSA pre-check. I can only assume I’m being punished for my forgetful act. Anyone else make this kind of mistake, how was it handled? I’m wondering how long I’ll be in Pre-check jail.. you can bet I’ll never make that mistake again! Lesson Learned!
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    DyeF9

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    Glad that didn't end badly. I do stuff like that all the time with my pocket knives. I always have it with me, just like my keys and wallet, so I forget

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    BillFairbanks

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    4:00 am, TSA pre-check, backpack scanned, backpack rescanned, TSA agent Call’s another one over “what do you see? It’s early and I want to make sure I’m not seeing things” as I stand and watch this begin to unfold. Enter APD, sir do you have any loaded or unloaded firearms in this backpack? Me: absolutely not. APD: do you own any firearms? Me: I own many firearms and the are locked up at home in my safe. APD begins to search backpack. As he pulls a holstered 9mm from my backpack, a panic begins to fall over me. My mouth opens wide, and I’m pretty sure I uttered “you’ve got to be fucking kidding me” APD: do you by chance have a CHL? Me: Yes sir. Hands CHL to Officer. APD: you are very lucky, law passed about a year ago allows for such a mistake. So we go downstairs, they run the firearm, all is good, small talk, then APD escorts me to the door and says have a nice day. I secure firearm in vehicle, go back to terminal and airline put me on a new flight, since I missed my scheduled flight. It takes a lot to shake me up, but this experience did it! Two weeks prior, the wife and I went on a road trip, so I threw the 9 in my backpack and forgot all about it. It happens, it can happen to you! This happened at the end of July, and I’ve flown twice since then, unfortunately on both flights No TSA pre-check on boarding pass. I have Global Entry which comes with TSA pre-check. I can only assume I’m being punished for my forgetful act. Anyone else make this kind of mistake, how was it handled? I’m wondering how long I’ll be in Pre-check jail.. you can bet I’ll never make that mistake again! Lesson Learned!

    Glad that didn’t end up worse for you.



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    rmantoo

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    I fly about once a year and ship handguns, and maybe once every 2 years and ship rifles. Never had a problem, of any sort with that, but I regularly forget I have a knife in my pocket until I'm approaching TSA...

    At least 10, maybe as many as 15 porters, curb agents, and a few random dudes have gerber folders because of my seeming inability to remember I have more than 1 pointy thing in my pants.
     

    Hoji

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    I travel a lot for work. So much that I have a dedicated travel backpack for flying( 5.11 72 hour rush) that sits in a giant zip lock bag in the closet and only leaves that container when I am packing for a flight.

    I have 2 other 5.11 72 Hour Rush bags( different colors) one is my hunting bag and one is for when I am traveling by car. Neither of those will ever see the inside of an airport.
     

    Sublime

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    My wife has a friend and her husband did that......about a year or two ago. He was not that fortunate. Arrested and lots of money for a lawyer and court. I don't know for sure but don't think they dismissed it either. I think he was convicted and got probation. I've only met him once.
     

    Hoji

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    I was not aware of this change in the law. Can you explain in more detail?
    Unofficially called the “oops, my bad” law.

    If you have a LTC and have a massive brain fart and have your gun in the screening section of an airport you get a do over. You will be grilled and released to take your gun and secure it. You will most likely lose any trusted traveller status you have ( Global Entry, PreCheck, Clear, etc)

    https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/84R/billtext/html/HB00554F.HTM

    It is a defense to prosecution.
     

    JoyJack

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    Unofficially called the “oops, my bad” law.

    If you have a LTC and have a massive brain fart and have your gun in the screening section of an airport you get a do over. You will be grilled and released to take your gun and secure it. You will most likely lose any trusted traveller status you have ( Global Entry, PreCheck, Clear, etc)

    https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/84R/billtext/html/HB00554F.HTM

    It is a defense to prosecution.

    Thanx, I hope I never experience that. I expected some type of penalty or loss of
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    CyberWolf

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    ...I’m wondering how long I’ll be in Pre-check jail.. you can bet I’ll never make that mistake again! Lesson Learned!

    As far as I know, any screw-up which results in a TSA incident report being filed will result in a 1-year Pre-Check time-out.
     

    txinvestigator

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    Unofficially called the “oops, my bad” law.

    If you have a LTC and have a massive brain fart and have your gun in the screening section of an airport you get a do over. You will be grilled and released to take your gun and secure it. You will most likely lose any trusted traveller status you have ( Global Entry, PreCheck, Clear, etc)

    https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/84R/billtext/html/HB00554F.HTM

    It is a defense to prosecution.

    The scary part is that while the law prevents you from being arrested at the scene, it is a defense to prosecution and they can still file criminal charges against you.
     

    Hoji

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    The scary part is that while the law prevents you from being arrested at the scene, it is a defense to prosecution and they can still file criminal charges against you.
    Hence dedicated, quarantined travel bag.

    I lost a round of 9mm in one of the other two bags( my former airplane bag) and just said screw it, get another one.

    5.11 Backpacks have space time continuum holes in them that make errant rounds of ammo reappear at the most inappropriate times
     

    Randman

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    Never happened, but I’m also fastidious about making sure any carryon is completely empty before I start packing for the trip.

    As for pre-check jail, why don’t you check to see if your status has changed? If I don’t see pre-check on my boarding pass, I just go to the counter and get it added.
    Called both airlines, they directed me back to call TSA.
     

    Randman

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    Thanks for sharing your embarrassing story. I’m sure that wasn’t easy.
    It is extremely embarrassing, I used to consider myself one of the safest most responsible handlers of firearms I know. I have beat myself up over this more than anyone could. I only hope that my story will help bring awareness to others, triple check all bags before heading to the airport!
     

    Randman

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    Glad that didn't end badly. I do stuff like that all the time with my pocket knives. I always have it with me, just like my keys and wallet, so I forget

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    Crazy thing, the night before I went through the bag checking what I thought were all pockets. Found one of my knives, threw it on the counter and told my wife “ I’m glad I found that, I would hate to lose it at the check point LOL”. And then this..
     
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