88,000 lose Blue Cross coverage plans in Texas

[Hoji]

I don't know how they can look in the mirror....

Don't blame me, I voted libertarian.

 

[Mreed911]

It might actually be a reason I hire my wife if I go self employed. Both our insurance costs would be tax deductible against the business as employee benefits.

 

[Hoji]

One could argue that a right to life includes healthcare to save/preserve it.

Pretty big stretch. Nowhere does it say you have a right to the fruits of someone else's labor. By saying you have a "right" to healthcare you are saying that someone has a right to take from a medical professioal's expertise and training without having to compensate them for it.

 

[Mreed911]

Pretty big stretch. Nowhere does it say you have a right to the fruits of someone else's labor. By saying you have a "right" to healthcare you are saying that someone has a right to take from a medical professioal's expertise and training without having to compensate them for it.

It has to be balanced against what the government is obligated to provide. I agree there's no obligation for the government to provide healthcare, per se, only the right of someone who can afford it to buy it.

 

[scap99]

Don't blame me, I voted libertarian.

I don't blame you.

 

[vmax]

Pretty big stretch. Nowhere does it say you have a right to the fruits of someone else's labor. By saying you have a "right" to healthcare you are saying that someone has a right to take from a medical professioal's expertise and training without having to compensate them for it.

what the frick! mark it down, Hoji said something not gun related that I completely agree with.
In fact, you saved me from replying to Mreed

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Right to natural life and death, sure. Right to prolonged a life through modern medicine...no. That's not a right.

 

[breakingcontact]

Right to natural life and death, sure. Right to prolonged a life through modern medicine...no. That's not a right.

You got it.

 

[Rattler60]

Oh really, I'm self employed, not on ACA and just lost my Blue Cross PPO. Would you contact bcbs of Texas and explain to them their mistake.

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[Rattler60]

Oops reply didn't work that was directed at Tejano Scott's explanation that this was just ACA

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[Eli]

There are still 'catastrophic' plans available, it's what I currently have - and, I get to pay an IRS penalty for it!

Eli

 

[breakingcontact]

There are still 'catastrophic' plans available, it's what I currently have - and, I get to pay an IRS penalty for it!

Eli

Good distinction. Some catastrophic plans meet the Obamacare mandate and some dont.

 

[karlac]

Wow, destined for failure it seems.

By design, in order to usher in single payer.

Damn, this whole subject is like listening to a lawyer speaking in Latin.

I freely admit I know very little about insurance.

You nailed it above, nothing more to know ...

 

[bdee]

That is EXACTLY what the control freaks in gov't WANT!!!!

What better way to control EVERYBODY. (don't follow MY rules, You are DENIED COVERAGE!!!)
If you own a firearm, You lose certain benefits!!!!!!! See the result???????

You will live the way that is described or you will lose something.

The BUREAUCRACY WILL DECIDE ALL THAT IS BEST FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

bob

How many current enrollees have lost their guns as a results, or this just fanciful fear-mongering?

 

[stdreb27]

Humana has doubled in price both years since signing up for it. And they say they're losing money.....

They just need to expand Medicare to all Americans and be done with it.

14th Amendment:

Equal Protection under the law.

Lol ah yes. Gubbermint screw up healthcare markets, so let's expand gubbermint's role and put everyone on the gubbermint's dole.

 

[zincwarrior]

I think a spreadsheet of commies to shoot if they do that is in order.

Thats not nurturing. I'm all for not cutting the poor any slack like the rest of you, but you're not a commie unless you have the secret Stalin Decoder Ring.

 

[bdee]

Lol ah yes. Gubbermint screw up healthcare markets, so let's expand gubbermint's role and put everyone on the gubbermint's dole.

The industry was fundamentally broken to begin with. Prices had no relationship to actual costs.

But this is an equal protection issue. One group of people are treated very differently (those aged 19-64) than the rest of the population. The government needs to treat all citizens equally.

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

Thats not nurturing. I'm all for not cutting the poor any slack like the rest of you, but you're not a commie unless you have the secret Stalin Decoder Ring.

I think you have me wrong. I am all for cutting the poor some slack and helping them. I don't think its government's place to do it. Its the place of individuals and not for profit groups who volunteer to help with their time and money.

And yes, a Stalin Decoder Ring would get you on "the spreadsheet", ha

 

[Mexican_Hippie]

The industry was fundamentally broken to begin with. Prices had no relationship to actual costs.

But this is an equal protection issue. One group of people are treated very differently (those aged 19-64) than the rest of the population. The government needs to treat all citizens equally.

Insurance doesn't equal government. "Equal protection" is irrelevant to the market.

 

[bdee]

Insurance doesn't equal government. "Equal protection" is irrelevant to the market.

If you offer a benefit to one group of people, and deny it to others, that is a violation of the equal protection clause.