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  • toddnjoyce

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    I’m curious who you trust for your information. I like to read a lot, hell I even watch CNN to see what crap they are peddling now and then. There’s nothing wrong with cross referencing. Fauci is supposedly THE MAN and he has been wrong the whole time. All these elites are bought.

    I trust but verify the Wall Street Journal for what most would call news.

    Outside of that, I read a wide variety of sources. In areas I take a deep dive, I go to industry and relevant scholarly journals and such as a jumping off point.

    I actively avoid MSM when it relates to information as a vast majority is commentary...I like to think for myself, not how others want me to and I don’t particularly need or want confirmation bias to influence the decisions I’m making.
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    CyberWolf

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    ....it raises the question over the validity of the rest of the article.


    You really trust medium.com as a scientific source?

    IMHO, it would be extremely wise to view the entirety of that article with a huge degree ofnl scepticism...Any viable/accurate info or perspectives in that are getting lost in the bullshit.

    tl;dr: I'm not going to waste my time "red lining", but suffice it to say that the whole thing is rife with confirmation bias, leading to a bunch of falsely-premised arguments and erroneous conclusions/statements (which are then compounded on).

    Overall, it read like a 'stream-of-consciousness' dump (cleaned-up) and argumentative/whiney in nature...kinda like a disgruntled worker with a few drinks in them, trying ad-nauseum to make a convoluted point.
     

    MacZC7

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    I’m an idiot, sorry for sharing. I should stick to browsing the classifieds and leave you journalism experts to it.
     

    MTA

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    There is also a growing number of doc that think the virus as aerosolized. If it has, social distancing and masks are a waste of time.

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    My wife (nurse) said the CDC (or some other org I cant remember) announced that it was aerosol awhile back.
     

    MacZC7

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    My wife (nurse) said the CDC (or some other org I cant remember) announced that it was aerosol awhile back.
    The CDC can’t make their mind up.

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    CyberWolf

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    I’m an idiot, sorry for sharing. I should stick to browsing the classifieds and leave you journalism experts to it.
    Just to be clear, I wasn't digging on you at all...It was a fair post and honest feedback given.

    That said, I've become particularly intolerant of BS masquerading as gospel, particularly because it can easily look legit if presented properly (disingenuous or genuinely erroneous makes little difference in the end), and will often feel almost compelled to tear the bullshit arguments to shreds with logic.

    It's not about journalism, it's about intellectual honesty, validity of knowledge/perspective, sound application of scientific methodology & reasoning, and perhaps at least just a touch of humility...
     

    MacZC7

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    Just to be clear, I wasn't digging on you at all...It was a fair post and honest feedback given.

    That said, I've become particularly intolerant of BS masquerading as gospel, particularly because it can easily look legit if presented properly (disingenuous or genuinely erroneous makes little difference in the end), and will often feel almost compelled to tear the bullshit arguments to shreds with logic.

    It's not about journalism, it's about intellectual honesty, validity of knowledge/perspective, sound application of scientific methodology & reasoning, and perhaps at least just a touch of humility...
    I’m just sensitive right now haha.
    This shitshow has everyone on edge. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was just me but I have a 5 year old son of my own and a 7,8 and 10 year old step kids that are about to have to go through some crazy shit just to go to school. Kids shouldn’t have to deal with this crap, they should be having a good childhood. I really don’t want my son remembering a bunch of draconian mask wearing and social distancing during kindergarten. It’s gone too far.
     

    MacZC7

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    If any of you haven’t listened to Dan check him out. He has an interesting history (secret service, LEO, politics) and is just a red blooded biscuit head like many of us. Today’s show covers what we’ve all been duscussing here and everywhere.

     

    rotor

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    The only thing we can say with certainty is that if you are not exposed you will not catch it and that perhaps a vaccine will prevent one from catching it if exposed. Nothing else is more than speculation.
    This is not nuclear science.
     

    etmo

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    This whole lockdown problem was caused by doctors and moronic politicians grasping for more power. "They're doctors, they must know what they're talking about, so we should lock down" was the "thinking" by the masses.

    Problem is, that's not good thinking.

    We could re-open the first covid thread and find posts by a bunch of us who noted the obvious -- life is made up of more than just medical decisions. "If we shut down the economy, poverty will wreck many peoples' lives, and if we shut ourselves in, other sociological phenomena will wreck many peoples' lives" we said.

    But for any archaeologist who digs up this website in 10000 years, 2020 is not a time for reason and clear thinking. It's a time for mob rule, and the bully pulpit of the liberal media.

    So they shut us down and locked us in, and shocker -- bad stuff happened. Now it seems several hundred of those doctors are realizing that life is more than just the dusty, old stuff they learned in med school. Nice of them to finally join the party, but it's too little, too late.
     

    MacZC7

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    The only thing we can say with certainty is that if you are not exposed you will not catch it and that perhaps a vaccine will prevent one from catching it if exposed. Nothing else is more than speculation.
    This is not nuclear science.
    A very minimal number of people will be getting in line for this vaccine even if they try to mandate it.
     

    MacZC7

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    Not no but hell no. You can shoot up whatever you want but not me and my family. God gave me an immune system for a reason. Let me know how it works out.
    I see this is a dogpile forum?
     

    MacZC7

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    What kind of answer is that? If a vaccine prevented the disease (and they are working on that now) assuming it is safe, why would you not get it?

    I didn't see your next post- an antivaccine proponent.
    I’ve already had it and kicked it in three days. Even if I didn’t I still wouldn’t. I’m not going to keep arguing with any of you. Do what you want but my family and I will absolutely NOT allow anyone to inject us with any magic serum. Have at it!
     
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