WTF??? ( Mild Rant)

Hoji · Oct 20, 2019

Went to Hudson, New Hampshire today due to a rare day off from work.

Went to Granite State Gun Range to rent a machine gun and and spend some bucks shooting( my plan was to buy a case of ammo and shoot till it was gone)

Range has a policy that you can not rent a gun unless you ;1) have a gun when you come in or 2) have a friend with you.
Since I am working in Massachusetts I obviously do not have a gun with me.

So needless to say, they would not budge on the rule

( even with TXLTC Instructor card, and other gun related carry licenses I have)

I could have purchased a long gun from them and taken it out of the store, turned around and come back in with my own gun, and rented what I wanted.

Tell me how this makes any sense at all?
Needless to say, I left without spending any money frivolously with them. Shame too, as there were a couple of good knives I would have bought on my way out.

plinkr · Oct 20, 2019

I have been presented with a similar policy, later on learned that a year earlier some guy had come in, rented a gun and blew his brains out. You can't blame them for being cautious.

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Hoji · Oct 20, 2019

plinkr said:
I have been presented with a similar policy, later on learned that a year earlier some guy had come in, rented a gun and blew his brains out. You can't blame them for being cautious.

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I know why the policy is in place. Sucks but it is what it is.
The fact that they would sell me a rifle ( in the store, by my self) but not rent me a gun unless I had a friend with me or my own gun seems pretty assbackwards.

Hoji · Oct 20, 2019

Seems they should have no firearms sales to people that come in alone as well.

Lonesome Dove · Oct 20, 2019

That has become the norm in some states. It’s all about suicide prevention.

Hoji · Oct 20, 2019

Lonesome Dove said:
That has become the norm in some states. It’s all about suicide prevention.

As I posted above, I know why they have that policy, but does it make any sense at all that they will sell me a long gun, but not rent a firearm to me ?

txinvestigator · Oct 20, 2019

They don't care if you off yourself elsewhere. Not many suiciders are going to buy a gun and then go right in the do the deed. It is about mitigation, not 100% prevention

Geezer · Oct 20, 2019

Last week a lady went to a local range and rented a gun and bought some ammo. She shot up the ammo and left. Later in the day, she came back and rented a gun and bought some ammo. While on the range, she puts a bullet into her head.
This range now has adapted the policy that you must come in with a gun before you can rent a gun.

Hoji · Oct 20, 2019

txinvestigator said:
They don't care if you off yourself elsewhere. Not many suiciders are going to buy a gun and then go right in the do the deed. It is about mitigation, not 100% prevention

Most folks that go in to rent a suppressed MP5 and buy 1,000+ rounds of ammo for a morning of shooting and who have a valid LTC would seem to fall outside of the suicidal parameters.
And per their written rules, if I come in with my own gun or a friend I could rent a gun from them.

Lonesome Dove · Oct 20, 2019

Hoji said:
As I posted above, I know why they have that policy, but does it make any sense at all that they will sell me a long gun, but not rent a firearm to me ?

They don’t want you killing yourself with their gun. Does it make sense? No to me but to a Lawyer it surely does.

Renegade · Oct 20, 2019

Stupid Rules from Stupid People.

toddnjoyce · Oct 20, 2019

Thank you for not spending any money there.

craigntx · Oct 20, 2019

What would suck is if someone offed themself with a c3 piece and the range lost use of it for an indefinite period of time

txinvestigator · Oct 20, 2019

Hoji said:
Most folks that go in to rent a suppressed MP5 and buy 1,000+ rounds of ammo for a morning of shooting and who have a valid LTC would seem to fall outside of the suicidal parameters.
And per their written rules, if I come in with my own gun or a friend I could rent a gun from them.

They don't want $10 per hour employees making that call.

Texasjack · Oct 20, 2019

There was a rash of gun rental suicides around here a few years ago. A LEO went to a popular range, rented a gun on the pretext of considering purchase, then said he forgot his hearing protection in the car. He went outside, sat in his car, and ate a bullet. I can understand ranges wanting to do everything they can to prevent having that on their property. (i.e., Do stupid things on your own property.)

txinvestigator · Oct 21, 2019

There are way more than you hear about. A local range has had two, and neither made to the media. I am aware of another one at a different range last year, again, no media

sidebite252 · Oct 21, 2019

That’s some strange stuff. I sure wasn’t aware of gun rental & suicide.

Renegade · Oct 21, 2019

txinvestigator said:
There are way more than you hear about. A local range has had two, and neither made to the media. I am aware of another one at a different range last year, again, no media

yep. I know of about 5 at bullet trap alone. There was one at Frisco earlier this year. Etc

Mowingmaniac 24/7 · Oct 21, 2019

Those who commit suicide having zero consideration for the hell it may create for others removes any sympathy I might have had for the motivation to kill themselves.

Rotten bastards!

If you're gonna kill yourself go way out in the woods and quietly die ya doosch.

baboon · Oct 21, 2019

Years ago I was in Illinois cruising around with a buddy checking out gun stores from my past. We went into one store & they had a rifle I wanted to look at. The clerck/jerk asked for my FOID card. I thew dowm my Texas CHL instead. I was told I could not only look at the gun, but needed to leave the gun shop.

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