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Did it pass and become law?
Lol, 7 pages. Which specific thing you asking about?
Did it pass and become law?
Looks like we have HB 153 about to come up for consideration, which will help nail down that definition of "intoxicated" as it relates to CHL.
HB 153 - Texas 83rd Legislature (2013) - Open States
The bill states adds a section to the definitions section of 46.01 to legally define intoxication (using 49.01 aka "point oh eight") for the whole of chapter 46, rather than leaving it open to interpretation.
If it passes, it will become law on 9/1/13.
Did it pass and become law?
Thats for the best IMO. It leaves it to the officer to decide if there is a problem rather than being forced to act due an arbitrary number. If you are calm, cooperative and not a danger i.e. not being an armed, drunk a-hole (per PC49 this is called PI) then it should be dealt with on a case by case as the situation dictates.No. According to the criminal defense attorneys at Texas Law Shield in an instructornclass I took, as well as the DPS CHL instructor training class I just attended, thendefimition in chapter 49 of the penal code has been used in all cases they are familiar with.
At this afternoon's Kerrvert's Brains Trust meeting, a point arose:
When carrying CONCEALED, is a "Clipdraw" or "Barami" or pocket holster for that matter sufficient to satisfy legal requirements? OR is a belt or shoulder holster needed as when OPEN carrying?
At this afternoon's Kerrvert's Brains Trust meeting, a point arose:
When carrying CONCEALED, is a "Clipdraw" or "Barami" or pocket holster for that matter sufficient to satisfy legal requirements? OR is a belt or shoulder holster needed as when OPEN carrying?
I took the LTC class in March of last year. The instructor was specific that to legally open or conceal carry that the weapon had to be holstered and clipped to a belt. A shoulder rig was ok as well. I remember seeing this in writing during the class but I don't recall in what context aka a legal document or just classroom material supplied by the instructor.As a longtime member of the Kerrvert Brain Trust, I was in that discussion yesterday afternoon. I had been told by a friend who recently got his concealed carry license that the instructor had indicated that a holster is required for concealed carry now. I asked if they quoted any statute, etc. and he said no but the instructors continued to indicate it was law. I'll see him again today and we'll continue this discussion.
Thanks for the response. That's essentially what my friend said. I'm going to ask him today to show me the statute. He may be correct, or not. I'd just like to know what the actual law is concerning how one carries concealed.I took the LTC class in March of last year. The instructor was specific that to legally open or conceal carry that the weapon had to be holstered and clipped to a belt. A shoulder rig was ok as well. I remember seeing this in writing during the class but I don't recall in what context aka a legal document or just classroom material supplied by the instructor.
I had been told by a friend who recently got his concealed carry license that the instructor had indicated that a holster is required for concealed carry now.
I received my permit to carry in Feb. of the first year we could get it (1994?). Because everything was new and instructor training was also new ...... several things were taught that weren't necessarily true and accurate.
I took the LTC class in March of last year. The instructor was specific that to legally open or conceal carry that the weapon had to be holstered and clipped to a belt.
Thanks for the clarification.Again, incorrect. The holster requirement (belt or shoulder) only pertains to open carry.
This is what we call a steaming pile of horseshit.I took the LTC class in March of last year. The instructor was specific that to legally open or conceal carry that the weapon had to be holstered and clipped to a belt. A shoulder rig was ok as well. I remember seeing this in writing during the class but I don't recall in what context aka a legal document or just classroom material supplied by the instructor.
I think the instructor was referring to open carry only. I was the one who was mistaken about what he was actually referring to. My bad! I always wear a holster fastened to my belt regardless if I'm carrying concealed or open so I never really gave it much thought. This has been a good thread to sift through.This is what we call a steaming pile of horseshit.
Your instructor was a halfwit if they actually spouted this nonsense.