Oh this is good. Dallas PD cop kills man

[Renegade]

It was almost the perfect storm.

yeah it sure was. In order for botham to die, dozens of innocuous events had to occur, all working against.

 

[Dad_Roman]

I don’t think it’s a question of if her actions were excusable. I think the question is what the charge should be.

I haven’t seen any posts implying she should walk away from this.


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If the reports we are getting are accurate then I agree with you. I dont see how it could be murder but I DO see negligent homicide there for sure.

I just dont know the legalities etc of all this.

.

 

[Renegade]

So if you walk into your own dark home, find a large man inside, you draw down and give commands that are ignored while you are in full police uniform you don't think there is a legal justification for deadly force?

Carter Albrecht, Amber Guyger, etc. lesson here measure twice, cut once.

 

[innominate]

RUUUUN FOOOOREST!!!

Woohoo. Finally caught up.

 

[El Spicoli]

The DPS Investigator is also saying they ran a sample test on the door and found it did not secure when closed 50% of the time.
I think that when combined with23% of the residents on the upper floors confused on which door was theirs will not bode well for the DA

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[innominate]

So if you walk into your own dark home, find a large man inside, you draw down and give commands that are ignored while you are in full police uniform you don't think there is a legal justification for deadly force?

How you state it I would think no. Ignored commands is vague. But I've read a post after this that says he stood up and advanced. That is a yes. That distance can be covered in a split second.

 

[innominate]

I'm slightly disappointed there hasn't been a Full Metal Jacket meme about locks posted.

 

[Kar98]

So if you walk into your own dark home, find a large man inside, you draw down and give commands that are ignored while you are in full police uniform you don't think there is a legal justification for deadly force?

If I was in my own home, not guilty of any crime, and there's a person pointing a gun at me and giving me "commands", I would think home invasion first and would see myself legally justified in employing lethal force. That what you're asking?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=robbers+dressed+as+police

 

[txinvestigator]

If I was in my own home, not guilty of any crime, and there's a person pointing a gun at me and giving me "commands", I would think home invasion first and would see myself legally justified in employing lethal force. That what you're asking?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=robbers+dressed+as+police

Read the question again. YOU WALK INTO your own home and find a man there....

 

[txinvestigator]

Carter Albrecht, Amber Guyger, etc. lesson here measure twice, cut once.

You referring to the guy with a BAC of just under .30% and Chantix in his system who assaulted his girlfriend and then went to a neighbors to pound on his door, was warned by the homeowner and then shot by that homeowner?

Yeah, how are those similar?

 

[Younggun]

Read the question again. YOU WALK INTO your own home and find a man there....

I have walked to the wrong door before. Typically my first thought is “crap, wrong door” at the first sign of something being out of place, like a person eating ice cream on the couch that I don’t know.


I have no doubt she truly believed it was her apartment. But I am hesitant to think a reasonable person would have been so sure of that same belief. I just don’t know.


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[innominate]

If I was in my own home, not guilty of any crime, and there's a person pointing a gun at me and giving me "commands", I would think home invasion first and would see myself legally justified in employing lethal force. That what you're asking?

https://www.bing.com/search?q=robbers+dressed+as+police

I would think that too. But what would you do with a bowl of ice cream? He didn't lock his door. Also, did she really bang on the door saying let me in? If the door was malfunctioning and not closing why would she have to do that? I can't keep up

 

[txinvestigator]

I have walked to the wrong door before. Typically my first thought is “crap, wrong door” at the first sign of something being out of place, like a person eating ice cream on the couch that I don’t know.


I have no doubt she truly believed it was her apartment. But I am hesitant to think a reasonable person would have been so sure of that same belief. I just don’t know.


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I have never been able to walk in, but upon my key not working I recall the stress. "what is wrong with my key"? try again... "Crap why won't this work"? Finally the confusion lifted and I realized I was trying the wrong door.

 

[Kar98]

Read the question again. YOU WALK INTO your own home and find a man there....

Sigh. Did you think I didn't get what you asked? OK, we'll play it straight then.
If I walk into an apartment that I allegedly mistook for my own, even though, according to witnesses, I banged at the door first and yelled "let me in!", I parked on the wrong level and went to the wrong floor and the big red mat wasn't a give away yet, I would wonder how that guy I find in that apartment managed to replace all my furniture and changed the lights and curtains and if that still didn't tip me off, I would not shoot at somebody holding a spoon and a bowl of ice cream.

 

[AustinN4]

And another one bites the dust. (member, that is)

 

[ZX9RCAM]

And another one bites the dust. (member, that is)

Wut?

 

[Renegade]

You referring to the guy with a BAC of just under .30% and Chantix in his system who assaulted his girlfriend and then went to a neighbors to pound on his door, was warned by the homeowner and then shot by that homeowner?

Yeah, how are those similar?

Like Guyger, he should have double checked it was actually his home home before engaging in behavior that would alter his life forever.

Or you can play stupid games and win stupid prizes.

 

[AustinN4]

Wut?

Look for the one with the line thru the name and is no longer posting.

 

[innominate]

And another one bites the dust. (member, that is)

You talking about killbot dude? I noticed that while I was going thru the last 20 page. Was getting tired of the killbot crap Among other things. I didn't ignore because I didn't want to miss any drama. Lol

 

[Renegade]

Her 2 biggest problems:

1) everything she did before the shooting was wrong.

2) everything she did after the shooting was wrong.

WTF was she thinking texting her lover to cancel the booty call and destroy sexting pics while he lay there bleeding out.

despite all this, I still think a good cry fest on witness stand might save her still.