Confiscation has begun

[oldag]

I've thoight about it alot.

My opinion is that these changes can't come from one source. They won't come through government influence either unless as a counter culture in resistance to a governemnt action.

I think the only way is for there to be small movements across the nation at the local level. Small neighborhood groups actively engaging the kids in the neighborhoods with different projects and activities. Avoiding any direct political commentary while quietly promoting good values and the consequences of poor choices. And we have to find a way to get people to think of themselves as individuals again.

In many cases across all demographics poor life choices have become a bit of a family tradition and those in such traditions have found themselves living in neighborhoods with others of similar lifestyles. A completly natural phenomenon.

In order to break such cycles it would almost require that an entire generation be pursuaded to take at different path, otherwise children are likely to return to tradition as they reach their teen years due to the general tendency to rebel and social pressure from other neighborhood kids.

Of course this is an overly simplified idea that doesnt account for the numerous variables and challenged currently faced in our society. Everything from drug addiction, to welfare, to racial divisions (on both sides).

Meant to make a short post, but I really don't believe there are any short or easy answers. I'm sure what I've said above could be picked apart by myself and others with just a minimal amount of critical thought applied.

Well said.

 

[easy rider]

I've thoight about it alot.

My opinion is that these changes can't come from one source. They won't come through government influence either unless as a counter culture in resistance to a governemnt action.

I think the only way is for there to be small movements across the nation at the local level. Small neighborhood groups actively engaging the kids in the neighborhoods with different projects and activities. Avoiding any direct political commentary while quietly promoting good values and the consequences of poor choices. And we have to find a way to get people to think of themselves as individuals again.

In many cases across all demographics poor life choices have become a bit of a family tradition and those in such traditions have found themselves living in neighborhoods with others of similar lifestyles. A completly natural phenomenon.

In order to break such cycles it would almost require that an entire generation be pursuaded to take at different path, otherwise children are likely to return to tradition as they reach their teen years due to the general tendency to rebel and social pressure from other neighborhood kids.

Of course this is an overly simplified idea that doesnt account for the numerous variables and challenged currently faced in our society. Everything from drug addiction, to welfare, to racial divisions (on both sides).

Meant to make a short post, but I really don't believe there are any short or easy answers. I'm sure what I've said above could be picked apart by myself and others with just a minimal amount of critical thought applied.

Almost sounds like you are comparing them to the Borg, and they are all part of the collective. And I'm not even a Trekkie, but I do remember the movie and what they represented.

 

[RobertTheTexan]

DuckDuckGo is a legitimate search engine that uses Googles search algorithms on the backend but does not retrieve, store, nor sell your search parameters or data/images retrieved - basically every detail you search for.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuckDuckGo

Not exactly on topic but an ancillary comment.
For those of you who don’t like sharing every word you enter on Google with the world including the gun-hating world - try the following:

https://www.startpage.com

Another privacy focused search engine. Using Google for search results, but no IP tracking (yes Google can use your IP addy to track your location) and no personal/private data collection.

Your best option is using a browser like Tor, but in the absence of that, StartPage and DuckDuckGo are good alternatives.


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[LOCKHART]

"Resistance is futile!". LOL!

 

[busykngt]

"Resistance is futile!". LOL!

Ain’t it wonderful? In this forum, you’re just as likely to run across the ‘world’s best scrambled egg recipe’ in a thread complaining about ‘a neighbors dog pooping’ in some guy’s front yard as what internet browser to use in a thread about gun confiscation! Dont’cha luv it?

 

[DwnRange]

I have spent some time thinkin on this subject and here's my solution.

In 1776 the British demanded we turn in our weapons........, we shot 'em.

 

[easy rider]

Shooting the British wasn't against the U.S. law back then.

 

[DwnRange]

Shooting the British wasn't against the U.S. law back then.

Sorry, but yes it was against the only law that existed at the time.

 

[easy rider]

Sorry, but yes it was against the only law that existed at the time.

British law, not U.S.

 

[Younggun]

Pretty sire we would get in trouble for shooting a Brit today. And I really don't have any issues woth Noggin.

 

[DwnRange]

British law, not U.S.

Excuse me for pointing this out again, as I tried to be subtle about it above, (seems my original "point" flew way above a multitude of craniums....., sort of like those that forget the past are doomed to repeated it, hint hint....).

.... but are you really that un-aware of where U.S. law came from?

From England in 1066 which lead to the "1100 Charter of Liberties" to King John and the Magna Carta; from King Charles and the Petition of Rights in 1628 to King James II and the Glorious Revolution of 1689, these were the principles and paths to liberty our founding fathers were familiar with, studied, debated and turned into our Constitution. Ya say "British law" as if it's dog meat, when in actual truth much of U.S. law is and was British common-law......, taken from history. We got our "enumerated-rights" from those in the past demanding the same freedom and liberty commoner's demanded and requested from British royalty.

Do folks really no know where the Constitution came from?

 

[Younggun]

Some people have no sense of humor.

 

[busykngt]

And besides 1066 was the date of the last successful invasion of England (not the Charter of Liberties).

 

[easy rider]

Some people have no sense of humor.

Appears not.

 

[45tex]

Excuse me for pointing this out again, as I tried to be subtle about it above, (seems my original "point" flew way above a multitude of craniums....., sort of like those that forget the past are doomed to repeated it, hint hint....).

.... but are you really that un-aware of where U.S. law came from?

From England in 1066 with the "Charter of Liberties" to King John and the Magna Carta; from King Charles and the Petition of Rights in 1628 to King James II and the Glorious Revolution of 1689, these were the principles and paths to liberty our founding fathers were familiar with, studied, debated and turned into our Constitution. Ya say "British law" as if it's dog meat, when in actual truth much of U.S. law is and was British common-law......, taken from history. We got our "enumerated-rights" from those in the past demanding the same freedom and liberty commoner's demanded and requested from British royalty.

Do folks really no know where the Constitution came from?

Everybody knows you get them at the Smithsonian Gift Shop. Its just around the back, about a half a mile from the railroad tracks.

 

[DwnRange]

And besides 1066 was the date of the last successful invasion of England (not the Charter of Liberties).

You are getting your information from the internet sir, the first writ (as Normans called them) or "Charter" was written between William the Conqueror shortly after the death of Edward the Confessor as he had been planning to seize the mantle of King of England, for many years - he needed the nobles help though and could not "force" their support, so along with assurances and support from the Pope he made his "writ/Charter" in written form and this was the first Charter of Liberties to which I referred above. Now days the internet refers to the Magna Carta as a Charter of Liberties as well, but this process between those who claimed the crown and barons and nobles began in 1066 (actually before that date as William had designs on the throne of England as far back as the "promise" of 1051 and "oath" of 1064 both made to Norman and English nobles alike from William, before and after he took the crown).

There was no internet back in 1776, only smart men who passed along copies of writs or charters between monarchs and commoners and thankfully the founders of our country used past documents and agreements, long forgotten by many, in order to form a government that would be beholden to the individuals that founded it, a Republic in which the People hold the power over government - "provided we can keep it", as Ben Franklin stated....

It appears in all respects as if our lack of morality and liberal disdain for real freedoms will be the downfall of the Liberty they so greatly cherished.

My knowledge of history in this regard came from books, not liberal history professors or the internet which is simply a tool that is used just as much for bad, as it's potential for good.

I for one will not go quietly into the night...

 

[Younggun]

Yeah, well...I watched Brave Heart.

 

[busykngt]

Needless to say, I question your source of the history you quote. Having read a biography of William the Conqueror and Churchill’s, “History of the English-Speaking Peoples” I don’t recall history as you have cited it. And when I do search the Internet - which is the modern day version of the library - I can find nothing to support your position on the “Charter of Liberties”.

I am always happy to lean more of history - as long as it’s correct history and not some “made up” fantasy. So, to that end, perhaps you could point me to your authoritative source(s)? I am quite willing to have my mind changed on the topic IF your version of the history is duly recorded as factual concerning the ‘Charter of Liberties’.

 

[Younggun]

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[TxStetson]

Love that movie too. You guys are hitting all my old favorites the last few days.