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OK, you have been very reasonable, so here is my answer for temporary relief: Like many cities have “COPS” units, standing for “Cabs on Patrol”, we could institute “GrandParents on Watch” or “GPoW”, in which Grandparents with weapons familiarity, could volunteer for brief stints of guard duty before, during, & after school hours. Retired GP’s with carbines could be stationed about school areas, on-guard. I’d bet no potential “shooter” would want to enter any place guarded by folks like us. And, don’t allow busybodies to weigh it down with all sorts of “rules”, extra training, insurance requirements, etc. Just consider this: Were your loved ones in immediate harm’s way from crazies with homicidal intent, exactly what qualifications would you demand of anyone on TGT before wanting them to STOP the immediate threat ? This is not that complicated. And, any teacher or school employee with a CL should be allowed to carry at work. Bus drivers, too. leVieux
>This is exactly what I, and several others, do one day a week each. My day is Thursdays most of the time. We've also got a few guys who can only put in a few hours one day a week and one guy who can do once a month. At this time though, we are not armed, but we are on guard, checking doors, watching...
It's not fun, but it is necessary.
During our first State audits, the auditor could not gain entry to two campuses. We still have some work to do.
Our organization is called Cub Watch. It's sorta like Watch D.O.G.S. but without the mentoring. We are just there for safety.
Oh, and each campus has armed teachers and staff. My group are not employees so we don't fall under that umbrella.
Alan
Pray-tell, if heavily armed Police have troubles stopping them, just how would unarmed elders do it ?
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To be reasonable and effective, those guarding schools should have carbines. Recall that most recent shooters have used carbines or rifles. Pray-tell, if heavily armed Police have troubles stopping them, just how would unarmed elders do it ?
I think these problems took time to evolve, and the solution is likewise going to take time to fix it.Maybe, any eventual permanent “fix”; but we need immediate help to save kids, not some protracted psychological or morals program.
>Right now, it's what we've got... I've told our guys that their first response is to make the call that something is amiss. After that, what they do is up to them... I know that I'd have to go and try to stop the shooter by whatever means were available, use up some of his seconds... If the doors are locked more seconds, if the inside doors are locked more seconds... use up enough and our cops WILL be there... Uvalde won't happen again...
You are right. We need rifles, both for the visual effect and for actual effect. Just our presence is a deterrent. Shooters are cowards. They don't want to be stopped before the do their thing. If we see them and sound the alarm, they can't do that, so they stay away... At least that's Plan A.
Plan B? BONZAIIII !
Alan
>.Maybe by entering the building instead of keeping parents back?
Maybe by doing something other than stand around in the hallway?
Dunno.
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Please re-read my comment.
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I understand that you are trying to do “something” and appreciate you effort.
The “pistols against rifles” would be bad enough, but bare hands against rifles is futile and senseless.
Why do bank guards, armored car workers, government & court guards all have serious weapons; but those who must protect our innocents must do it with bare hands ?
NO, I reject that notion in its entirety.
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Please re-read my comment.
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