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  • studenygreg

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    But only one is replicating Hitler’s nazi behavior.
    I love how everything we dont agree with now is hitleresque or nazi.
    I think raw onions are nazi Hitler vegetables. If you eat them, you are also a nazi and hitler.

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    Havok1

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    Every day I read Facebook posts by lefties who say Trump is “literally hitler”. I don’t think he is involved in this situation, or that he is “literally Hitler”, so not sure who is supposedly “replicating Hitlers Nazi behavior”.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Every day I read Facebook posts by lefties who say Trump is “literally hitler”. I don’t think he is involved in this situation, or that he is “literally Hitler”, so not sure who is supposedly “replicating Hitlers Nazi behavior”.
    Sure, but putin is replicating, with exact precision hitler's moves politically.

    Political strong man - check

    Lots of "mysterious" deaths of political opponents - check

    Violent crackdown on free speech - check

    Nationalization of major industry - check

    Government control of media/news outlets - check

    Twisting of history to fit the political agenda - check

    Deportation of untermench/forced depopulation - check

    Claimed invasion was to protect ethnic minority who wasn't in significant danger - check

    Soldiers in said invasion commit mass murder and bury victims in mass graves - check

    Utilization of well oiled propaganda machine which doesn't just describe things favorably but out-and-out lies - check

    Open use of torture on political, military and criminal prisoners - check


    Sure, people can say what they want, but the facts are putin is following exactly in Hitler's footsteps.

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    Johnny Diamond

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    Sure, but putin is replicating, with exact precision hitler's moves politically.

    Political strong man - check

    Lots of "mysterious" deaths of political opponents - check

    Violent crackdown on free speech - check

    Nationalization of major industry - check

    Government control of media/news outlets - check

    Twisting of history to fit the political agenda - check

    Deportation of untermench/forced depopulation - check

    Claimed invasion was to protect ethnic minority who wasn't in significant danger - check

    Soldiers in said invasion commit mass murder and bury victims in mass graves - check

    Utilization of well oiled propaganda machine which doesn't just describe things favorably but out-and-out lies - check

    Open use of torture on political, military and criminal prisoners - check


    Sure, people can say what they want, but the facts are putin is following exactly in Hitler's footsteps.

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    Problem is I'm seeing same actions being taken in many countries.

    Not meant to diminish your obviously correct observations simply meant to point out that it's getting increasingly dark.


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    Havok1

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    Sure, but putin is replicating, with exact precision hitler's moves politically.

    Political strong man - check

    Lots of "mysterious" deaths of political opponents - check

    Violent crackdown on free speech - check

    Nationalization of major industry - check

    Government control of media/news outlets - check

    Twisting of history to fit the political agenda - check

    Deportation of untermench/forced depopulation - check

    Claimed invasion was to protect ethnic minority who wasn't in significant danger - check

    Soldiers in said invasion commit mass murder and bury victims in mass graves - check

    Utilization of well oiled propaganda machine which doesn't just describe things favorably but out-and-out lies - check

    Open use of torture on political, military and criminal prisoners - check


    Sure, people can say what they want, but the facts are putin is following exactly in Hitler's footsteps.

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    Most of that occurs here in the US as well as other countries. So corrupt governments are corrupt. Putin is probably a big enough turd on his own that there really isn’t a need to reach so far with the hitler comparisons. Especially when they are so vague like the earlier response to the list, which can easily be left to interpretation. We are probably all aware of the pictures of Ukrainian soldiers waving their swastika flag.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Most of that occurs here in the US as well as other countries. So corrupt governments are corrupt. Putin is probably a big enough turd on his own that there really isn’t a need to reach so far with the hitler comparisons. Especially when they are so vague like the earlier response to the list, which can easily be left to interpretation. We are probably all aware of the pictures of Ukrainian soldiers waving their swastika flag.
    Anyone who believes what happens in the USA is anywhere close to what is happening in russia is a fool. Its not even close. Its like saying because you drive 5 or 10mph over the speed limit that you might as well be NASCAR...

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    Havok1

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    Anyone who believes what happens in the USA is anywhere close to what is happening in russia is a fool. Its not even close. Its like saying because you drive 5 or 10mph over the speed limit that you might as well be NASCAR...

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    You’re the one that pointed out the criteria. I just showed the flaws in it. Perhaps you shouldn’t have made the list so similar to what occurs here and throughout the world. Perhaps you should have made a list of things that were more specific to Hitler. But that may have been tougher to relate Putin to.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    You’re the one that pointed out the criteria. I just showed the flaws in it. Perhaps you shouldn’t have made the list so similar to what occurs here and throughout the world. Perhaps you should have made a list of things that were more specific to Hitler. But that may have been tougher to relate Putin to.
    Your weak attempt at equivocation doesn't make my list flawed.

    If you could point out facts where my list was in some great error, where in reality russia was promoting free speech or had free and fair elections or where prisoner's could expect to not be beaten or tortured, then you might have a point.

    I really dont know why you are so bent on "America is just as bad" when it comes to russia. It's an little odd how you (as with all russian media) rather than acknowledge the faults of russia, want to turn and say "but America does xyz" (wheter true or not).

    I also dont think you understand logic...

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    Havok1

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    Your weak attempt at equivocation doesn't make my list flawed.

    If you could point out facts where my list was in some great error, where in reality russia was promoting free speech or had free and fair elections or where prisoner's could expect to not be beaten or tortured, then you might have a point.

    I really dont know why you are so bent on "America is just as bad" when it comes to russia. It's an little odd how you (as with all russian media) rather than acknowledge the faults of russia, want to turn and say "but America does xyz" (wheter true or not).

    I also dont think you understand logic...

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    I didn’t say the things were not true. I said you’re describing most corrupt governments including our own, so you didn’t show that Putin is just like Hitler. The next thing on your list would have likely been that Hitler was a man, therefore other people who are men are just like Hitler.
     

    cycleguy2300

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    I didn’t say the things were not true. I said you’re describing most corrupt governments including our own, so you didn’t show that Putin is just like Hitler. The next thing on your list would have likely been that Hitler was a man, therefore other people who are men are just like Hitler.
    Roll-eyes...

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