Suppressor FFL out of buisness??

[Stuohn101]

So it's been 380 days since submitting E-form 4 from through trust for suppressor. Was notified yesterday the responsible party (5320 I think) lists my name as the transferee and not the trust name (the form 4 does list the transferee as trust name). So I've been trying to reach out to my ffl (Sere Tactical in LaPorte TX) and they are out of buisness, I've emailed and no reply. What do I do now?

 

[V-Tach]

1.

NFA Branch

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They can (by serial number) inform you who has the suppressor now. The Dealer is not allowed to keep it, and should have transferred it to another dealer.

2. Keep trying to locate your FFL.

3. Attorney

Good luck...

 

[MTA]

Real pos move to go under and not even tell your nfa customers

 

[pbratton]

The ATF would have asked them to transfer the item to another dealer or had the form 4 expedited to allow transfer.

I suggest you contact the ATF office in Houston and see what they can tell you. (have your serial number...)

 

[Stuohn101]

I contacted ATF in Houston, informed I have to wait until form 4 approved. Dealer actually responded yesterday via email and said he's been in the hospital. I revised the form myself and emailed to the atf.requests who then responded that they forwarded to examiner. Examiner Emailed this morning saying it has to be submitted through eforms (of course it's not showing up on my eforms site). They gave me until Friday Feb 1st. I emailed the dealer again but, no answer. I emailed him a copy of the revised form also. Lastly, I emailed him a replacement dealer information.

 

[Renegade]

So they are not out of business and he is in hospital.

Not much you can do till form is approved.

 

[CharlieWH2O]

I contacted ATF in Houston, informed I have to wait until form 4 approved. Dealer actually responded yesterday via email and said he's been in the hospital. I revised the form myself and emailed to the atf.requests who then responded that they forwarded to examiner. Examiner Emailed this morning saying it has to be submitted through eforms (of course it's not showing up on my eforms site). They gave me until Friday Feb 1st. I emailed the dealer again but, no answer. I emailed him a copy of the revised form also. Lastly, I emailed him a replacement dealer information.

If that dealer can't help you go talk to The Gun Vault in Santa Fe. Good folks.

 

[Stuohn101]

So they are not out of business and he is in hospital.

Not much you can do till form is approved.

Their store front is completely gone, web site is gone, and phone disconnected.
That's the problem, if they don't send then revised form it won't be approved.

 

[V-Tach]

Tough spot, it is all up to him to fix and typically you only get a week to fix it.......hence Feb 1st as you stated.

When I retired, I had to keep my license and SOT and wait out the Form 4's that were pending. Transferring to another dealer meant they went back to the end of line and started over and would have to pay a transfer fee to the new dealer.....

Keep trying to let him know the gravity of the situation....

 

[Renegade]

Their store front is completely gone, web site is gone, and phone disconnected.
That's the problem, if they don't send then revised form it won't be approved.

Has he given up his FFL? That is what matters. If yes, ATF can expedite your xfer, if not you have to wait.

 

[Stuohn101]

Update dealer finally called me and tells me that he received my updated form and submitted, I can't go into why he's out but, it's a personal issue and he confirmed he has someone available to give me the suppressor once the tax stamp is approved. We shall see.

 

[Renegade]

Update dealer finally called me and tells me that he received my updated form and submitted, I can't go into why he's out but, it's a personal issue and he confirmed he has someone available to give me the suppressor once the tax stamp is approved. We shall see.

cool - no 4473!

 

[Stuohn101]

cool - no 4473!

Of course it will be done legal..

 

[Renegade]

Of course it will be done legal..

He can only have “someone available to give me the suppressor once the tax stamp is approved” if he no longer has an FFL, and thus no 4473 is required.

So, Is he OOB and gave up his FFL or not?

 

[Stuohn101]

He can only have “someone available to give me the suppressor once the tax stamp is approved” if he no longer has an FFL, and thus no 4473 is required.

So, Is he OOB and gave up his FFL or not?

I looked it up and the FFL is still valid until end of 2024.