"If you don't vote like a gun owner, YOU SUCK!

[Oz15]

I am a 75 year old native Texan and life long Democrat. I cannot vote for Beto because of his stand on the 2d Amendment. I also cannot vote for Abbot because of his extreme position on abortion and for his penchant for theatrics over substance. That, and the damn grid is still not fixed. So I will be voting third party.

I can understand this tough situation. I ask with all due respect. Is there an issue that’s more important or closer to you than the other? Which issue has the potential to more heavily impact your life at this point- the lives of your loved ones? I suppose that’s what I would have to consider. Do you still have ongoing issues with the grid where you live or are we still talking about the February freeze event from almost a couple of years ago? I’ve worked (3rd party type) with several power plants and cogen plants and they are definitely spending money on reliability projects and improvements, especially as related to winterization. To say or believe that the Governor, Abbott or anyone else for that matter, is to blame, doesn’t seem right to me. Once in a lifetime or maybe twice in a lifetime freeze event and half the state wants to blame the Governor. I don’t think it’s totally fair. Then again, maybe I don’t know enough. My family and I lost power at our home for a short 24 hour-ish period, so we were not impacted as badly as some. In any case, God Bless Texas! God Bless the USA!

 

[DoubleDuty]

You make good points about gun owners talking to just gun owners. Inside the bubble so to speak. Serious challenge to bring the young non-gun owners to our way of 2A rights. They don't have to own guns but their votes for/against 2A issues counts just as much as tax paying gun owning votes. The students in the video I posted earlier and millions like them are the problem in the future.

Thus the importance of education. They are also the future politicians

 

[cav21082108]

Here's an interesting fact and question. Voting places are turkey shoot gun-free zones.
Would more gun owners vote if they didn't have give up one right to exercise another? How many votes are we missing?

Dude! How paranoid ARE you? When was the last time THAT happened? You are there for like 10 minutes and back in your truck (where you left your gun while voting). Your chance of your gun suffering a catastrophic malfunction during the incident is higher that the chance of such an incident occurring while you are in the voting booth. Or, take a friend with you and have them stand guard outside while you take the BIG RISK and vote, then you can switch places. Jeeze.

 

[Axxe55]

Dude! How paranoid ARE you? When was the last time THAT happened? You are there for like 10 minutes and back in your truck (where you left your gun while voting). Your chance of your gun suffering a catastrophic malfunction during the incident is higher that the chance of such an incident occurring while you are in the voting booth. Or, take a friend with you and have them stand guard outside while you take the BIG RISK and vote, then you can switch places. Jeeze.

Lighten up Francis

 

[Rug357]

I am a 75 year old native Texan and life long Democrat. I cannot vote for Beto because of his stand on the 2d Amendment. I also cannot vote for Abbot because of his extreme position on abortion and for his penchant for theatrics over substance. That, and the damn grid is still not fixed. So I will be voting third party.

You are a big part of the problem. No Texan should ever vote for those Left Wing morons that are the Democrats. I would hardly call Abbot's stand against the murder of babies extreme. I will admit Abbot does become more Conservative the closer to an election he is. Abbot is not perfect, but compared to that Left Wing looney that is Beto, he's an angel.

 

[DaBull]

So, yeah, you might not like either candidate. Hold your nose and vote for the one that is the most 2A.

I would offer one exception to this rule and it takes some really careful consideration.

Sometimes libs run a slighly conservative lib in a red district. Maybe they are pro gun or anti abortion. The point is, they can steal another blue chair from what might otherwise be a red chair. Why is this an issue? Because the majority party gets the speakership, and the speaker gets to decide what goes up for vote.

Just like keeping anti gun politicians off the ballet helps gun rights regardless of which politician wins, keeping anti-gun laws off the docket keeps gun rights in place.

This suggests there might be a time when you vote a gun-indifferent conservative into office over a pro-gun lib, just to ensure Congress keeps a conservative majority.

 

[EZ-E]

I can understand this tough situation. I ask with all due respect. Is there an issue that’s more important or closer to you than the other? Which issue has the potential to more heavily impact your life at this point- the lives of your loved ones? I suppose that’s what I would have to consider. Do you still have ongoing issues with the grid where you live or are we still talking about the February freeze event from almost a couple of years ago? I’ve worked (3rd party type) with several power plants and cogen plants and they are definitely spending money on reliability projects and improvements, especially as related to winterization. To say or believe that the Governor, Abbott or anyone else for that matter, is to blame, doesn’t seem right to me. Once in a lifetime or maybe twice in a lifetime freeze event and half the state wants to blame the Governor. I don’t think it’s totally fair. Then again, maybe I don’t know enough. My family and I lost power at our home for a short 24 hour-ish period, so we were not impacted as badly as some. In any case, God Bless Texas! God Bless the USA!

It amazes me how many people want to blame Abbott for the grid failure. I don't blame him one bit. He wasn't in office when these plants were built or designed.

If you want to blame anyone ... blame the CEOs & any other suit that profits off of bonuses on these projects. Because the plant was in Texas, they figured they could skimp on the cost, because Texas is HOT. The greedy corperate fukers gambled on the weather over putting $$$ in their pockets. I lived near the coast most of my life, we hardly seen snow that far south. Even though I lived near the coast I'm still smart enough to know....EVERY YEAR there is snow & sleet in Northern & West Texas.

ETA...

Any area north of I20 will get hit with winter storms.... it's been that way for the 47 years I've lived in Texas.

 

[Rug357]

It amazes me how many people want to blame Abbott for the grid failure. I don't blame him one bit. He wasn't in office when these plants were built or designed.

If you want to blame anyone ... blame the CEOs & any other suit that profits off of bonuses on these projects. Because the plant was in Texas, they figured they could skimp on the cost, because Texas is HOT. The greedy corperate fukers gambled on the weather over putting $$$ in their pockets. I lived near the coast most of my life, we hardly seen snow that far south. Even though I lived near the coast I'm still smart enough to know....EVERY YEAR there is snow & sleet in Northern & West Texas.

ETA...

Any area north of I20 will get hit with winter storms.... it's been that way for the 47 years I've lived in Texas.

Actually blame the Left Wing greenies. Solar and wind do not work when they are frozen and covered with snow. The first day of the freeze mainstream media was broadcasting that it wasn't the fault of the green initiatives. Right there that told me the switch to more solar and wind was indeed the reason for the failure. Those socialists always lie.

 

[EZ-E]

Actually blame the Left Wing greenies. Solar and wind do not work when they are frozen and covered with snow. The first day of the freeze mainstream media was broadcasting that it wasn't the fault of the green initiatives. Right there that told me the switch to more solar and wind was indeed the reason for the failure. Those socialists always lie.

They came after the plant was built & designed. But I do agree, people that thought once wind & solar was an option to help it would be a solution for any careless design issues.

 

[SARGE67]

Actually blame the Left Wing greenies. Solar and wind do not work when they are frozen and covered with snow. The first day of the freeze mainstream media was broadcasting that it wasn't the fault of the green initiatives. Right there that told me the switch to more solar and wind was indeed the reason for the failure. Those socialists always lie.

I remember the pics of choppers spraying deicer on the windmills and ice covering the solar panels

 

[Axxe55]

I remember the pics of choppers spraying deicer on the windmills and ice covering the solar panels

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personally I do like solar and wind energy I think they're great ideas but they cannot sustain the grid and the customers on the infrastructure like cold gas and oil can

 

[rotor]

I am a 75 year old native Texan and life long Democrat. I cannot vote for Beto because of his stand on the 2d Amendment. I also cannot vote for Abbot because of his extreme position on abortion and for his penchant for theatrics over substance. That, and the damn grid is still not fixed. So I will be voting third party.

Claiming to be a life long democrat and believing in the 2A are complete opposites. Maybe when there were blue dog democrats that was possible but not now. Either you believe in the constitution and bill of rights or you don't.
I already voted, abortion issue is settled in Texas but may change on a federal issue. Your legislators made abortion a negative in Texas, Abbott just signed the bill. Not voting for Abbott just increases Beto's chances of a win. At age 75 you should have learned this by now. You are a junior to me. Age doesn't always bring wisdom.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I would offer one exception to this rule and it takes some really careful consideration.

Sometimes libs run a slighly conservative lib in a red district. Maybe they are pro gun or anti abortion. The point is, they can steal another blue chair from what might otherwise be a red chair. Why is this an issue? Because the majority party gets the speakership, and the speaker gets to decide what goes up for vote.

Just like keeping anti gun politicians off the ballet helps gun rights regardless of which politician wins, keeping anti-gun laws off the docket keeps gun rights in place.

This suggests there might be a time when you vote a gun-indifferent conservative into office over a pro-gun lib, just to ensure Congress keeps a conservative majority.

The problem we have at the moment is that the Democrat party wants to rule us. Therefor there can be no compromise.

 

[Axxe55]

The problem we have at the moment is that the Democrat party wants to rule us. Therefor there can be no compromise.

I wouldn't cross the street to piss on a Democrat if his guts were on fire

 

[Texasjack]

I am a 75 year old native Texan and life long Democrat. I cannot vote for Beto because of his stand on the 2d Amendment. I also cannot vote for Abbot because of his extreme position on abortion and for his penchant for theatrics over substance. That, and the damn grid is still not fixed. So I will be voting third party.

I'd like to comment on this. I remember a guy telling me, "My great grandfather was a democrat. So was my grandfather, my father, and me. I didn't change my politics one bit, but the democratic party took a hard turn to the left and they abandoned me. I have no choice but to vote Republican."

The democratic party of today is NOT the democratic party of my youth. Look at JFK! The first thing he did when he took office was to reduce taxes. He was pro-military and pro-police. He would be a hard-core republican today - far right of Trump. Yet he was considered rather "radical" when he took office. The democrats have really become a socialist party, with some of them really turning pro-communist.

Now, granted, both parties in Washington are corrupt. It's more a choice of the lesser of two evils than anything else. But let's be very, very clear: When it comes to the Second Amendment, there is only one choice. Private ownership of firearms is not compatible with socialism.

Finally, while I like the idea of a third party, and while sometimes a third party may actually be closer to my beliefs than the two major parties, historically they cannot win national elections. They simply don't have the money or manpower to get out that kind of vote - and it's not close, it's by orders of magnitude. Throwing your vote away on a third party means that you are giving the socialists a better shot at winning, and that's not a good plan.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I'd like to comment on this. I remember a guy telling me, "My great grandfather was a democrat. So was my grandfather, my father, and me. I didn't change my politics one bit, but the democratic party took a hard turn to the left and they abandoned me. I have no choice but to vote Republican."

The democratic party of today is NOT the democratic party of my youth. Look at JFK! The first thing he did when he took office was to reduce taxes. He was pro-military and pro-police. He would be a hard-core republican today - far right of Trump. Yet he was considered rather "radical" when he took office. The democrats have really become a socialist party, with some of them really turning pro-communist.

Now, granted, both parties in Washington are corrupt. It's more a choice of the lesser of two evils than anything else. But let's be very, very clear: When it comes to the Second Amendment, there is only one choice. Private ownership of firearms is not compatible with socialism.

Finally, while I like the idea of a third party, and while sometimes a third party may actually be closer to my beliefs than the two major parties, historically they cannot win national elections. They simply don't have the money or manpower to get out that kind of vote - and it's not close, it's by orders of magnitude. Throwing your vote away on a third party means that you are giving the socialists a better shot at winning, and that's not a good plan.

The Democrat party never changed. Their tactics did.