Ford cuts Lightning payments in half

[TXAdj.....]

You just need to make twice as many

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Only in communist Canada. Pass..........

 

[toddnjoyce]

Ford’s CEO is quickly becoming one of the loudest voices on the country not being ready for EVs yet and going all-in being a dumb idea.

From a manufacturing perspective, they’re cutting losses; from a strategy perspective I hope they decide to follow Toyota’s decision to pursue hybrid instead of full EV.

 

[TexasRedneck]

Or better yet - park 'em around the WH an' tell THEM to try to sell 'em.

 

[Dawico]

So ~$864 per month for something you will not own? Sounds like a terrible deal to me..

You have to understand the math on that deal. These are $80k trucks.

If you buy the truck with the given down payment and payment plan after 48 months you are finally back to zero on it.

This is the reality of modern prices. Leases used to be 2 years then became 3 or 4 years to accomplish the same goal.

Usually a lease ends about the same time you can get rid of a normally purchased vehicle at 0 equity.

Not defending getting one of these but the math works out.

 

[IXLR8]

China today, America 2030.

 

[Txhighlander]

If they really want to sell them, offer the first 2 battery packs on them when they die. And of course disposal. I still wouldn't buy though, I surly love my gas guzzling V8's

 

[seeker_two]

LOL. I wouldn't have one if was given to me tax free. I'd sell it and buy a gasser.

Read that wrong the first time. Wondered why you would buy an Italian.....

 

[pronstar]

If they really want to sell them, offer the first 2 battery packs on them when they die. And of course disposal. I still wouldn't buy though, I surly love my gas guzzling V8's

Some companies are taking novel approaches to this:
VinFast (Vietnamese EV carmaker…yes i’m serious), sells cars but leases the batteries.

 

[Sasquatch]

Some companies are taking novel approaches to this:
VinFast (Vietnamese EV carmaker…yes i’m serious), sells cars but leases the batteries.

I believe Mercedes was doing the same with Smart cars.

 

[General Zod]

They could give me one...

They couldn't give me one - I can't afford to feed it.

 

[Sasquatch]

Electric vehicles only make sense for people who live and drive in the city, where there is a charging system network. Rural dwellers and people who like to play out in nature would be retarded - literally retarded, like, extra or missing chromosomes retarded - to rely on an EV.

Its bad enough that some of the hybrids get fucked if the hybrid battery discharges to a certain point - thus requiring a tow to a dealer or authorized service center to access and charge the thing, or in some cases replace it. I've towed Prius' for that very reason. They won't run, even in limp mode, on the gas engine only despite having a 12 volt battery in addition to the drive batteries.

I'd rather have a high efficiency ICE powered vehicle.

 

[wbblazer90]

You have to understand the math on that deal. These are $80k trucks.

If you buy the truck with the given down payment and payment plan after 48 months you are finally back to zero on it.

This is the reality of modern prices. Leases used to be 2 years then became 3 or 4 years to accomplish the same goal.

Usually a lease ends about the same time you can get rid of a normally purchased vehicle at 0 equity.

Not defending getting one of these but the math works out.

$80K trucks? P.T. Barnum hit the nail on the head then.

I know some nice people who are climate activists that are proud they are saving the environment by driving their Teslas. Nevermind they never considered where most of the electricity is produced to charge their cars.

 

[leVieux]

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[gll]

They couldn't give me one - I can't afford to feed it.

I make enough power to feed it..., certainly for my limited travel and the battery would be a nice added backup for my system.

 

[Dawico]

$80K trucks? P.T. Barnum hit the nail on the head then.

I know some nice people who are climate activists that are proud they are saving the environment by driving their Teslas. Nevermind they never considered where most of the electricity is produced to charge their cars.

Local dealer had one for $72k plus $30k "market adjustment". $102k before tt&l.

No thanks.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

My wife recently asked why I don't buy a new truck. So I said remember when we bought our first home with a 30 year loan. That's how a new truck costs She quickly said Phuq that!
I laughed and said I wasn't born yesterday.

 

[Texasgordo]

Local dealer had one for $72k plus $30k "market adjustment". $102k before tt&l.

No thanks.

Pretty much the price of a new Denali dually. Still way too much for me.

 

[Sasquatch]

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Pretty much the price of a new Denali dually. Still way too much for me.

This hurts my soul.

Not too many years ago, you could buy a medium duty Freightliner M2 flatbed, extended cab with some bells and whistles (like remote controlled winch, air ride w/ air dump, full LED lighting package, etc) for $103,000.

When I was still towing, the last truck we bought was a 2014 Dodge 5500 4wd flatbed for $85k.

101,760 for a regular damned pickup that is just a daily driver or weekend warrior truck...nah, no way. I get it, out dollars are worth 17% less thanks to Bidenflation and the rona bullshit but this is still rediculous. Unless you are going to live in it, or make a living in it - $100K for a vehicle is unacceptable.

 

[Axxe55]

This hurts my soul.

Not too many years ago, you could buy a medium duty Freightliner M2 flatbed, extended cab with some bells and whistles (like remote controlled winch, air ride w/ air dump, full LED lighting package, etc) for $103,000.

When I was still towing, the last truck we bought was a 2014 Dodge 5500 4wd flatbed for $85k.

101,760 for a regular damned pickup that is just a daily driver or weekend warrior truck...nah, no way. I get it, out dollars are worth 17% less thanks to Bidenflation and the rona bullshit but this is still rediculous. Unless you are going to live in it, or make a living in it - $100K for a vehicle is unacceptable.

last price i saw for a siverado ev was over $100K!

 

[Tnhawk]

I don't want the risk of an ev fire burning my home down.