Byrna - Anyone have firsthand experience?

[kbaxter60]

So the radio guy has been plugging this non-lethal self-defense option the last couple of weeks. After checking out the web site, I am at least a little interested. I think if I lived in an apartment it might fit the bill. Anyone have this, or know someone who does?

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[General Zod]

Seems like a great way to piss an attacker off. Also, same cost as a firearm, 5-7 round capacity, and can potentially be shrugged off by someone who's either psychotic, on meth/PCP, or just plain determined. I suppose it would be a viable option for someone who is just absolutely unwilling to risk killing in self defense, but...again, there are many risks to someone trusting it.

 

[studenygreg]

Maybe it's good if you can't own a gun. You should probably have a bat, sword, spear, or something else handy for backup after you make them angry.
I do not think this will work well on druggies

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[ZX9RCAM]

Not anything new.

ETA: Not the brand, but the idea.

 

[zackmars]

LTL is only useful if you have an immediately available "lethal" backup plan.

If you plan on using or carrying a pepperball gun or pepper spray, you're going to want to expose yourself so you know what to expect when you inadvertently breath it in.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I don’t do less than lethal considering TPC 9.

 

[Grumps21]

I heard a commercial for this on the drive home today. Interesting for sure.

 

[zackmars]

If this is the same company I'm thinking of, they're just rebranded paintball pistols. You can get the original versions for quite a bit cheaper.

 

[leVieux]

Maybe it's good if you can't own a gun. You should probably have a bat, sword, spear, or something else handy for backup after you make them angry.
I do not think this will work well on druggies

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I have traveled the World with a solid wood walking cane, a pulsing strobe tac-light, and an Acme Thunderer police-style whistle.

TSA “OK” and a helluva lot better than nothing.

leVieux

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[studenygreg]

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I have traveled the World with a solid wood walking cane, a pulsing strobe tac-light, and an Acme Thunderer police-style whistle.

TSA “OK” and a helluva lot better than nothing.

leVieux

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I can't argue with that.

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[kbaxter60]

Seems like a great way to piss an attacker off. Also, same cost as a firearm, 5-7 round capacity, and can potentially be shrugged off by someone who's either psychotic, on meth/PCP, or just plain determined. I suppose it would be a viable option for someone who is just absolutely unwilling to risk killing in self defense, but...again, there are many risks to someone trusting it.

Valid points. You could come up with a similar list for the use of a 9mm semiautomatic pistol.
And I think many have the wrong idea about why this interests me. My goals for home defense are STOP THE THREAT and KEEP ALL OTHERS SAFE. If that means killing a murderous drug-addled attacker, I do have firearms and am willing to use them. There are risks here, as well. I need to maintain proficiency and a stray bullet, ricochet, etc. could cause harm to others in the house. Luckily, we don't have a risk to neighbors problem, but some do.
Anyway, that was my thought process...

 

[jrbfishn]

Something to consider.
If I have a gun myself, even if I had no plan to draw or shoot it, if you point one of those at me or even have it in your hand and present a threat, day or night, now I am going to try to kill you before you get me.
I am not going to stop and try to figure out what it is. If it's lethal or a toy. I am not going to run at the mear sight of it. I can't outrun whatever it shoots. I am going to act. I am going to attack. Either physically or with a firearm of my own.
If you are going to threaten someone with something that looks lethal, lethal things can happen.

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[Whistler]

The two shot Kimber is a lot cheaper and if two doesn't do the job you're switching to something more lethal.

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Rubber bullets, bean bags, rock salt are all cheaper (and maybe more effective) less lethal options.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Yeah just No!

 

[baboon]

I have less then lethal coved with 40mm sponge rounds,

 

[General Zod]

I have less then lethal coved with 40mm sponge rounds,

"You're carryin' a grenade launcher? What the hell are you afraid of?"

"Not a goddamn thing."

 

[TXAZ]

12 Ga and .50 cal can be excellent non-lethal weapons:

1) by their mere presence when pointed at a suspect at close range, without ever having to fire a shot
Or
2) firing a shot with the muzzle close to their ear

 

[studenygreg]

I always thought 9mm was a good non-lethal option.

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[glenbo]

obiden says the 9mm will blow the lungs out, so it can't be non-lethal.

 

[General Zod]

obiden says the 9mm will blow the lungs out, so it can't be non-lethal.

I prefer the .9mm so many news stories are written about. It sounds like a useful round.