AR triggers

[Lonesome Dove]

Ok question I have a couple nice 1 1/2 and 2lb triggers on my hunting bolt guns.
I can't remember what my current brand or level it is a 2 stage variant and nothing to get smiley about.
My gun is set up for Pig shooting but would suffice for out of home defense if needed.
I'm purchasing a new AR just for out of home defense.
So upgrade a 2 stage or change to upgraded single stage for both
Yeah yeah! broad question to some but basic always works too.

 

[Gordo]

For home defense, I wouldn't go any lower that 3-ish pounds, like 3-1/2, and really practice (combat type training) with it.
That is an extreme adrenaline situation, and one that you need 100% reliability.
Stay away from Rise, and Elftmann triggers, both were really disappointing. Like crap disappointing!
Some say CMMC are good, I have a 2# for a currant 22" AR10 build, but haven't tried it yet.
Have a couple of Trigger Tech units, like them a lot!
They have sort of a 1911 type feel. Very short take up, and Very Crisp break.

 

[Otto_Mation]

Best bang for the buck for a self defense AR is the ALG Defense Combat Trigger ACT. It is essentially a precision made mil spec trigger that has been Nickel Boron coated. They can be had for about $79 last time I looked. They won't be in the 2-3 lb range but mine have all been in the 4-5 lb range which for me is ideal on a self-defense gun. I think they advertise them at 6 lb but are really a bit lighter than that.

ETA: ALG is Bill Geissele's wife's company.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Best bang for the buck for a self defense AR is the ALG Defense Combat Trigger ACT. It is essentially a precision made mil spec trigger that has been Nickel Boron coated. They can be had for about $79 last time I looked. They won't be in the 2-3 lb range but mine have all been in the 4-5 lb range which for me is ideal on a self-defense gun. I think the advertise them at 6 lb but are really a bit lighter than that.

ETA: ALG is Bill Geissele's wife's company.

There are two Geissels for sale here.
But they're a bit more than I was thinking to spend. I'd like to keep it about $150 or Less because I'll need two.

 

[Otto_Mation]

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DetailsThe ALG Defense Advanced Combat Trigger (ACT) takes the bomb proof reliability of the standard Mil-Spec trigger and gets rid of the grit and vague break. A sharper break has been achieved by polishing the engagement surfaces and coating the trigger with an electroless Nickel plating that...

www.primaryarms.com

 

[brashears9567]

There are two Geissels for sale here.
But they're a bit more than I was thinking to spend. I'd like to keep it about $150 or Less because I'll need two.

Those Geissele triggers in that posting are overpriced, seeing as memorial day is around the corner and Primary Arms runs deals on holidays for Geissele SSA and SSA-E for 149.99 each. I get an email almost every day during the holidays. I've bought at least seven of them from Primary.


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[billtool]

Unlike @Gordo, I've had great luck with the Rise 140. I have 3, two curved trigger and one flat. All three pull at 3.5lbs according to the factory and my digital Lyman. One was bad out of the box and they took care of it immediately. I also have a CMMC. I like it too. It has a 3lb pull. So I vote for the Rise. 90.00 will get a 140 to the house.

 

[zackmars]

Giessle, or larue.

There's no benefits to a single stage trigger unless you're shooting bench rest competitions

 

[smittyb]

I LOVE my CMCs. I think all but 2 of my ARs wear them, and one of them is not physically able to because of its proprietary lower.
That being said, strictly for home defense I would opt for a Schmidt. It’s EVERY bit as good as a Larue, for half the price.
Probably 99% of all the original 2 piece AR style 2 stage triggers out there are made my Schmidt. They are sold under a million different companies names. You can tell it’s a Schmidt by the “S” proof mark on the trigger blade.
They also make a single stage. That is what is in my one AR that still retains the 2 piece trigger.
It’s dirt cheap.
Here’s a link to the single stage

D040 - Dirty Bird Industries Single Stage Nickel Teflon Trigger Group Minus Springs - AR15Discounts

When taking a look at one of the first upgrades to make to your AR-15 or AR-10, you should most certainly look at which triggers are the best for you

ar15discounts.com

Here’s one of the many iterations of the 2 stage

- Aero Precision 2-Stage Nickel-Boron Trigger - AR15Discounts

The Schmid Tool 2-stage trigger features a 4.5 lb total pull weight and a durable Nickel Boron finish, ensuring a smooth pull and crisp break every time you

ar15discounts.com

ETA- before @zackmars jumps on me because $65 is not half of $99, the 2 stage can regularly be found on sale for $50.

 

[smittyb]

Giessle, or larue.

There's no benefits to a single stage trigger unless you're shooting bench rest competitions

To each their own, but I could not disagree more.
ETA- The trigger choices, not necessarily the 2 stage part.

 

[Lonesome Dove]

Unlike @Gordo, I've had great luck with the Rise 140. I have 3, two curved trigger and one flat. All three pull at 3.5lbs according to the factory and my digital Lyman. One was bad out of the box and they took care of it immediately. I also have a CMMC. I like it too. It has a 3lb pull. So I vote for the Rise. 90.00 will get a 140 to the house.

Do you like the flat trigger? I have for for my PDP but haven't installed yet.

 

[billtool]

I do like it. It’s a different feel and I couldn’t tell you why a curved is better than a flat a
Or vice versa. It looks pretty bad ass on the AR though.

 

[zackmars]

I LOVE my CMCs. I think all but 2 of my ARs wear them, and one of them is not physically able to because of its proprietary lower.
That being said, strictly for home defense I would opt for a Schmidt. It’s EVERY bit as good as a Larue, for half the price.
Probably 99% of all the original 2 piece AR style 2 stage triggers out there are made my Schmidt. They are sold under a million different companies names. You can tell it’s a Schmidt by the “S” proof mark on the trigger blade.
They also make a single stage. That is what is in my one AR that still retains the 2 piece trigger.
It’s dirt cheap.
Here’s a link to the single stage

D040 - Dirty Bird Industries Single Stage Nickel Teflon Trigger Group Minus Springs - AR15Discounts

When taking a look at one of the first upgrades to make to your AR-15 or AR-10, you should most certainly look at which triggers are the best for you

ar15discounts.com

Here’s one of the many iterations of the 2 stage

- Aero Precision 2-Stage Nickel-Boron Trigger - AR15Discounts

The Schmid Tool 2-stage trigger features a 4.5 lb total pull weight and a durable Nickel Boron finish, ensuring a smooth pull and crisp break every time you

ar15discounts.com

ETA- before @zackmars jumps on me because $65 is not half of $99, the 2 stage can regularly be found on sale for $50.

I have a version of the schmidt 2 stage, i think i got it from FCD. I've shot a few others. I would say i like it more than my larues, however thats due to the shape of the bow. In overall feel and quality the larue is all over the schmidts.

 

[lbbf]

I really like CMC triggers. I have a Rise and a POF. Both are good as well, but I still like CMC more.

 

[smittyb]

I have a version of the schmidt 2 stage, i think i got it from FCD. I've shot a few others. I would say i like it more than my larues, however thats due to the shape of the bow. In overall feel and quality the larue is all over the schmidts.

Different strokes for different folks.
I suppose that’s why they make more than one brand.
Have you tried the Dirty Bird single stage?

 

[zackmars]

To each their own, but I could not disagree more.
ETA- The trigger choices, not necessarily the 2 stage part.

Giessle is the most proven 2 stage AR trigger out there. Say what you will about their other products, but their triggers are combat proven, and you have plenty of bow and face options.

Larue doesn't have nearly the amount of options WRT faces or bows, but they feel every bit as good and are in some ways even more durable than G triggers

 

[Younggun]

I do like it. It’s a different feel and I couldn’t tell you why a curved is better than a flat a
Or vice versa. It looks pretty bad ass on the AR though.

A flat trigger lets you put your finger very low on the trigger giving more leverage, effectively making it lighter. Doing that on a curved trigger causes your finger to fight sliding up on the squeeze.

That’s the difference I get anyways. I’ve shot and prefer the feel of a flat trigger, don’t have any though.

 

[zackmars]

Different strokes for different folks.
I suppose that’s why they make more than one brand.
Have you tried the Dirty Bird single stage?

I tend to avoid the various polished single stage triggers, spikes, BCM, ALG, schmidt, etc. There's nothing wrong with them, but i don't think they are consistently better than a standard milspec trigger can be.

 

[Younggun]

My AR-10 has the Geissle SSA-E 2 stage trigger and I’ve been pretty happy with it.

Those on the forum who have shot my rifles know I prefer a lighter trigger than most. I was worried the SSA-E would be too heavy for my preference with a 2lb load and 1lb break. (Checked and it’s listed as 2.3lb load and 1.2lb break). It’s really doesn’t feel like a 3lb trigger though. And the break is pretty nice and crisp.

I use it for hunting. Wouldn’t hesitate to use it for home defense with the same trigger, but it’s a little large and heavy for that.

 

[Younggun]

I tend to avoid the various polished single stage triggers, spikes, BCM, ALG, schmidt, etc. There's nothing wrong with them, but i don't think they are consistently better than a standard milspec trigger can be.

Depends on how each person defines “better”.

I can think of many problems with standard milspec triggers. Or better put, improvements that can be made in order to promote accuracy across a broad range of shooters. But over a broad range of situations there may be other factors that become more important.