After being robbed at gunpoint, while carrying, what can you do?

[txinvestigator]

there are plenty of lives that together arent worth a busted ass VHS tape. let alone a dvd player.

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And you and I don't get to decide that.

Some of you act like you believe that taking a life is like stepping on a spider. You have no idea.

 

[txinvestigator]

Kinda bro. They ask questions. I shot beacuse I was in fear for my life. Anything after that, I respect your questions but I need a attorney present before we continue. THey can no longer ask you anything else. If they have nothing else then he says go home and you MAY get a call from a detective working the case. No need to run out and get a attorney until you have been arrested. Even after that no need until you have been Indited. You can be arrested and never be charged with the crime.

That is not how it works, slick. If you clam up plan on being arrested. You committed a homicide if the guy dies. The only question is one of justification. If the police have PC that you committed that homicide and you do not provide them enough to base a decision of justification, plan on going to jail.

Good Grief.

 

[txinvestigator]

Is that your legal opinion or what you hope happens?

He is not qualified to offer even an informed opinion, much less a legal one.

 

[bagged02]

That is not how it works, slick. If you clam up plan on being arrested. You committed a homicide if the guy dies. The only question is one of justification. If the police have PC that you committed that homicide and you do not provide them enough to base a decision of justification, plan on going to jail.

Good Grief.

Good Grief mans, Damn im a ass. Never a need to get a attorney UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN INDITED. This is per 2 attorneys I called. They stated, they cant do anything except for file for public record and that just regarding the warrant issue not details of the incident. Pay your attorney upfront, Dont get indicted, See if you get your money back. Once you get that peice of mail stating you have a court date, thats the time to go get a attorney. First thing Ive seen you say on here thats not the brightest idea.

Respect if earned TINV. Someone tells you thanks for input weeks ago and then 2 months ago and you dont respond that means your either self centered or really dont give a rats ass. I choose both options.

 

[Bithabus]

for sure. Both scenrios legal right. Eyes of the law no one will be charged.

Deadly force to stop theft is not a justification. At night it is, but even then reasonableness is not presumed.

Also, as txinvestigator posted, most people will suffer psychological harm after killing someone. Might not be worth it to do that to yourself over a few bucks. Read On Killing by Grossman.

 

[TheDan]

Wow... So I guess this means any time I carry my handgun, I will also have on my track shoes!

Yep! My first piece of self defense gear is shoes I can run in.

 

[scap99]

And you and I don't get to decide that.

Some of you act like you believe that taking a life is like stepping on a spider. You have no idea.

Nope. But the c@ck sucker that tries to rob someone has just gambled that his own life is worthless.


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[scap99]

Deadly force to stop theft is not a justification. At night it is, but even then reasonableness is not presumed.

Also, as txinvestigator posted, most people will suffer psychological harm after killing someone. Might not be worth it to do that to yourself over a few bucks. Read On Killing by Grossman.

You're going to be screwed up in the head no matter.


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[Bithabus]

You're going to be screwed up in the head no matter.


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bagged 2 was commenting about theft not robbery. Maybe he doesn't know the difference though.

 

[scap99]

bagged 2 was commenting about theft not robbery. Maybe he doesn't know the difference though.

My bad. Did not see his comments.


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[txinvestigator]

Good Grief mans, Damn im a ass. Never a need to get a attorney UNTIL YOU HAVE BEEN INDITED.

First of all, the word is indicted.

This is per 2 attorneys I called. They stated, they cant do anything except for file for public record and that just regarding the warrant issue not details of the incident

You clearly have no idea about that which you regurgitate. And I am wagering you have not contacted anyone.

Pay your attorney upfront, Dont get indicted, See if you get your money back.

OMG, that is so ignorant.

Once you get that peice of mail stating you have a court date, thats the time to go get a attorney.

Mail? You mean arrest warrant served by the police. You mean AFTER you have been arrested, posted bail, etc?

First thing Ive seen you say on here thats not the brightest idea.

That is laughable.

Respect if earned TINV. Someone tells you thanks for input weeks ago and then 2 months ago and you dont respond that means your either self centered or really dont give a rats ass. I choose both options.

Sucking up gets you nothing, especially you. And I DON"T give a rats ass. First thing you have right since you joined.



I know you have been banned, but you will log in as a guest and read this, so enjoy being corrected, again.

 

[txinvestigator]

Nope. But the c@ck sucker that tries to rob someone has just gambled that his own life is worthless.


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Robbery? Who is talking about robbery?

 

[scap99]

Robbery? Who is talking about robbery?

Thought we were. The thread is titled robbed at gunpoint, no?


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[Wabbit69]

I am of the opinion that nothing I own is worth taking a life for. However, I can see that if I was robbed at gunpoint, I would probably condider my life to be in immediate danger. The place that I work does not permit firearms on the premisis. Even after I obtain my CHL, this means that I most likely will not have a firearm accessbile if I become the victim of an armed robbery. I am taking courses in personal defense, first learning empty-hand, edged wepon, and "weapon-of-opportunity".
Having said all that, I'm pretty sure that if I chose to defend myself by sticking my Zebra Pen into my attacker's eye-socket, it would still be a homicide and would (and should) be thoroughly investigated by the police, just as it would if the perp was filled with Ranger T's. The courses that I'm taking also place a lot of emphasis on situational awarenes and avoidance, unknown contact management, de-escalation, and breaking contact to escape. I view these skills as the most important.
I can see how fleeing the scene would be a sound tactical decision if I had to get away from a perp's friends. However, If I had to do that, I think I would dial 911 as soon as I got to a safe location, tell them what happened, direct them to my location and stay on the line unitl an officer arrived. He would probably find me on my knees with my hands-up, weapons cleared, and my ID in my hand (probably still shaking like a dog pooping razor blades).

 

[scap99]

We are all entitled to our own opinions, right or wrong. That's the beauty of this great nation. I don't care if you don't like it, or don't agree, or think I'm talking smack, but the picture below is pretty much how I feel about the situation.

 

[Bithabus]

First of all, the word is indicted. You clearly have no idea about that which you regurgitate. And I am wagering you have not contacted anyone. OMG, that is so ignorant. Mail? You mean arrest warrant served by the police. You mean AFTER you have been arrested, posted bail, etc? That is laughable.

He's banned man. Hopefully forever this time.

 

[Wabbit69]

We are all entitled to our own opinions, right or wrong. That's the beauty of this great nation. I don't care if you don't like it, or don't agree, or think I'm talking smack, but the picture below is pretty much how I feel about the situation.

Back to the OP, I believe the question is about the use of force on a perp while he's trying to break contact. If I've read the thread correctly, It appears that Texas law does allow it in some limited circumstances. The general consensus appears to be that doing so comes at the cost of greater physical risk to the crime victim, will complicate the resulting investigation, and add to the legal bill.

I didn't mean to offend you. Sorry if I did. I share your sentiment when it comes to my home. I like that sign. The only reason I don't have one similar is because I'm afraid to announce to the neighborhood that I think we have something worth stealing.

 

[Stumpy]

Pursuing would probably go against you since the "danger" is gone. Shooting them in the back is a no no I believe.

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Chase them down? There was this guy in Sanford, Florida...

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First, being in fear of your life is not a justification for deadly force.

wait...what?

 

[TheDan]

wait...what?

Read the text of the law. Fear has nothing to do with it. If it did, then all those hoplophobes that are scared because you carry a gun could kill you.

I always have to re-explain this to my GF.

 

[Tejano Scott]

I'm scared of this thread. Can I kill it?