You take your chances with a jury. Sounds like the video caught some of, but not all the encounter.…
I have questions
Wonder if someone felt the father, at 72, should have known better than to start a fight with a hotheaded neighbor.
You take your chances with a jury. Sounds like the video caught some of, but not all the encounter.…
I have questions
Thats an excellent pointYou take your chances with a jury. Sounds like the video caught some of, but not all the encounter.
Wonder if someone felt the father, at 72, should have known better than to start a fight with a hotheaded neighbor.
Thats an excellent point
With the witness for the state saying that Howard took a swing THEN the father shot, it seems to be self defense
And all the orher witnesses including law enforcement saying Howard was violent and threatening..
I'd like know the stats on the jury..male female, age that sort of thing.
EXACTLY!YOU CAN'T INSTIGATE OR ESCALATE THE CONFLICT ANTHEN USE SELF DEFENSEAS JUSTIFICATIONWhat does TPC 9 say about self defense as a justification if you start the fight? Maybe we’re all focused on the bat and the jury wasn’t.
I could also make the case the son was justified in defense of a third person once the bat was introduced based on disparity of force.
All I’ve seen/read on this is what was in the Big Country Times this week. Haven’t seem the video and despite what was in the paper, acknowledge we don’t know the impact opening and closing statements and jury instructions had in persuading the jury that *somebody* had to be held accountable.
You take your chances with a jury. Sounds like the video caught some of, but not all the encounter.
Wonder if someone felt the father, at 72, should have known better than to start a fight with a hotheaded neighbor.
I'm unsurprised the jury found the instigator guilty, although I am surprised at the relatively light sentence and the acquittal of the son - and curious at the ineptitude of the prosecutor over some of the things that were allowed at trial that should've resulted in a mistrial.
Eli
Do we know if the jury set the sentence in this case? Or did the judge?
Do we know if the jury set the sentence in this case? Or did the judge?
Town bullies can have their waysFirst, If the dead guy has been causing so much trouble, why haven't the LEO's been involved, especially if a postal worker was threatened? That could easily be a federal crime. Second, this escalated far beyond what it should have. Get everyone involved (i.e. City officials, Mayor, and anyone else) who could have stopped this senseless act by both parties that elevated to the death of one of them. So tragic and it also gives those who are lobbying to take away our guns more ammunition for their fight.
First, If the dead guy has been causing so much trouble, why haven't the LEO's been involved, especially if a postal worker was threatened? That could easily be a federal crime. Second, this escalated far beyond what it should have. Get everyone involved (i.e. City officials, Mayor, and anyone else) who could have stopped this senseless act by both parties that elevated to the death of one of them. So tragic and it also gives those who are lobbying to take away our guns more ammunition for their fight.
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Howard had plenty of run ins with law enforcement. The latest one pior to his death was making threats against the code enforcement officer who came to his house about the illegal dumping in the alley. Those charges never made it to an arrest warrant because he got killed before it could
They haveFirst, If the dead guy has been causing so much trouble, why haven't the LEO's been involved, especially if a postal worker was threatened? That could easily be a federal crime. Second, this escalated far beyond what it should have. Get everyone involved (i.e. City officials, Mayor, and anyone else) who could have stopped this senseless act by both parties that elevated to the death of one of them. So tragic and it also gives those who are lobbying to take away our guns more ammunition for their fight.