My only option for a PF9 grip from Hogue would be a slip-on grip as the polymer frame and grip is one piece. My husband said he could use it as an additional carry so it's not like it won't get used. He can handle the recoil just fine...
And of course I want to buy another gun! This is the perfect excuse, too! I don't have to make up some lame excuse like, "Because I want one" now!
...and there's more that I don't quite feel like discussing because it's really a moot point. I'm looking at 9mm, that's it.
i like 9mm cause when the SHTF it will be a readily available spoil.
and let me know how those turn out once ya get to test them as ive been lookin for a 'nice' 9mm to supplement my hi-point. (its good for the range and some other applications, but i wouldnt want to carry it, as its too bulky)
F350 - Exactly why I want to test-fire them. I'm looking for this new one because the kick on my Kel-Tec is so great that I can't keep a good enough grip on it. It doesn't fly out of my hand or anything like that - it just causes issues with the ejection of the spent shells, causing the gun to jam. I can aim it fine and the kick doesn't bother me, but when I can't keep it from jamming because I can't hold on to to, that's not desirable in a carry weapon.
I don't feel like I could conceal a full-size pistol without drastically changing my wardrobe - and I don't even wear tight skimpy things like most girls. If I can't conceal a gun with my normal loose t-shirts, jeans, and jackets then I think it's too big for me to conceal. So I am looking at smaller pistols, but with a steel frame instead of a composite frame like I have now. I think I'll find recoil reduced significantly - twice the weight's gotta count for something.
I'm assuming the shells eject correctly, it just does not load the next round properly? Your husband can fire the weapon with no jams?
What we need to figure out is if it's a grip issue (need a different size or shape grip on the pistol) or if it's the amount of kick that's causing the problem. Kind of sounds like the same thing, but getting a better grasp of the weapon is sometimes all that's needed to control the extra kick.
How comfortable is the Kel-Tec in your hand? Does the grip feel too fat? Too thin? Too short? Does the magazine grip extender feel too wobbly or unsecure?
Also, if you don't mind me asking, what pistol did you learn to shoot with? If you're just learning to shoot, I'd suggest learning on a full size weapon so the recoil is minimized and you can concentrate on getting comfortable with the shooting before stepping down to one of those conceal type weapons that kicks like a mule.
How do you feel about revolvers? My wife has a snub nose 38 that's light as air with hardly any kick at all. It's fun to shoot and I've been known to borrow it myself on occasion. (sorry got side tracked again. I know 9mm. I'll try and pay attention)
My gun is theoretically PERFECT.
It only happens after the third or fourth round but it's not the magazine - it's inconsistent about when it happens and happens with similar frequency between three different magazines with fresh springs.
Sorry, no such thing. You'll have to get several to cover different situations.
Now we're getting somewhere. Fresh springs where? Recoil springs or magazine springs? Does it jam if you just close your eyes and squeeze the trigger as fast as you can (without even trying to aim) ? You mentioned thickness of the grip, but not the length.
Things I'd suggest you try. Take a picture of your husband holding the pistol as he's about to shoot. Take a picture of yourself holding the pistol as you're about to shoot and compare the grip. Also try shooting the Kel-Tec one handed. Sounds odd, but a lot of folks tend to jerk the trigger in a one handed grip, which isn't the best thing for accuracy, but might help with your recoil issues. Being an inch or two off on accuracy won't hurt as long as you're aiming center mass.
I can take a photo of me holding the gun for purposes of grip analysis but we aren't going to the range for quite a while (preparing for a move, it's kinda costly) so that'll have to do.
Length is perfect on the grip for me too....
I have tried shooting it one-handed before and it feels like the gun is about to fly out of my hand. Also jammed on the first shot, not the third or fourth like when I shoot it with both hands.
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My eyes don't work as well as they used to. Is there a magazine in there? If so, is it the extended one or the short one?
Like you, I was assuming it would take a larger grip and heavier weapon to cut down on the recoil. I've fired a baby eagle in 9mm and the recoil was very manageable, but the pistol felt like it weighed 18 lbs.
I had the opportunity to fire a Springfield XD -9 subcompact this past weekend. It's extended grip magazine will provide you a better grip than shown here, and the recoil was amazingly light for a pistol that size. I'd put it on par with my full size Browning Hi-Power. I personally don't like the trigger of the XD, but this isn't about me.
Not trying to make it more complicated, but I was amazed at how little recoil there was on the XD subcompact. You might consider looking for that as a rental also. Maybe you won't hate the trigger as much as I do.
Nothing in your grip pictures shows any significant issues on your part. The pistol just doesn't seem to fit you well. I'm guessing it's not your husbands first choice to go shooting with either.
Okay, I now have photos of my grip on the Kel-Tec.
Sorry I had to take them with my cruddy built-in computer camera but I can't seem to find our actual camera...
Both one- and two-handed grips, as well as a top view. (I'm right-handed but the camera mirrored the images...d'oh!)
Please no offense, I mean only to be helpful, but I think you can improve your grip. There are a lot of things I see that are working against you in handling recoil. The biggest issue I see is your weak hand. You are very close to "tea cupping" which give zero support against recoil. Your weak hand has to offer more support, which you can only do if it is higher on the grip, and it should be strong enough to hold he gun against recoil as if it was holding by itself. Then a slight bit of push-pull will steady your hold as you pull the trigger with the strong hand that is not stressed trying to hold the gun. There are plenty of instruction videos on the web that can help with that, but one on one instruction would go a long way. Hope that helps.