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  • karlac

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    Wise words from NYC?s top cop | New York Post

    Police Commissioner Bill Bratton sent New Yorkers an important message Tuesday in the wake of Eric Garner’s death, allegedly by police chokehold: There is no constitutional right to resist arrest.
    “What we’ve seen in the past few months is a number of individuals failing to understand that you must submit to arrest, you cannot resist,” Bratton said in an interview on Brian Lehrer’s radio show. “The place to argue your case is in the court, not in the street.”
    It’s a critical point, and one Bratton’s made before. We just wish he wasn’t the only public official sending that message.
    The simple fact, painful as it may be for some to acknowledge, is that Eric Garner would be alive today if he’d cooperated when cops tried to arrest him for illegally selling loose, untaxed cigarettes.
    Instead, he argued with police, refused to put his hands behind his back, accused them of harassing him and vowed, “It ends today.”
    As Bratton said from the outset, “My officers are not going to walk away” when someone resists arrest. He also notes that cops aren’t in the harassment business.
    Enforcement of “quality of life” crimes, like selling loose cigarettes, is prompted by calls from community merchants and local officials, who “definitely want more police in their neighborhoods.”
    The fastest way to defuse a confrontation like the one that ended in Garner’s death is not to resist arrest.
    And if folks like Mayor de Blasio and assorted community leaders (who seem bent on besmirching cops) truly want to prevent tragedies like Garner’s, they’ll repeat that lesson publicly and often.
    Suspects have every right to fight charges against them. What they don’t have is a right to fight the cops.

    There is a large element of fail in that rant, and it definitely doesn't start with the statement about cops "not being in the harassment business".

    Even though there are numerous court cases in this country upholding an individual’s right to resist State-licensed criminal violence, where life and limb is concerned practical overrides being right, and no one wants to be the guinea pig.

    Damned shame we're now less free in that regard than an 18th century English peasant was under the Magna Charta.
     

    ZX9RCAM

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    Wonder what the charges were

    Believe it or not, if somebody is standing in front of or behind your car, you have to get them to move somehow besides pushing them out of the way with your vehicle.
    Unfortunately, it is considered assault if one attempts that.

    At least this is what
    I was told by an HPD officer when I was in that situation, so if others know different, please let me know.


    Now, if it were an angry crowd or something, I don't know what you could do "legally" I just know what I would do....
     

    TheDan

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    90+% that did not do anything screams pretty loud to me.
    True, but where is the internal backlash? Normally if anyone expresses a personal opinion they get fined (like the dude with the personal t-shirt, or the "no comment" guy). Those 90+% should be saying "not cool." Anyone with their hands up at this point is just showing how much of an idiot they are.




    I carry too much "Grey Poupon" on my belt to have room for an extra mag.....
    Maybe if you weren't so full of it you wouldn't fill up the colostomy bag so quick ;)


    Where was this at? I would have ran the road block, too. I'm not going to just stop and be a target.
     

    rushthezeppelin

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    While yes we have another genius doing it seems a little more than passive resistance to arrest this underscores another problem with our laws, the war on drugs. If it wasn't for the welfare state, the war on drugs and the CIA helping to perpetuate the drug problem (look up Freeway Rick Ross if you doubt me, it ties into Iran Contra) they would probably still have some of the best rates of families staying together and we all know family is the core of a community and without it everything devolves.
     

    matefrio

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    While yes we have another genius doing it seems a little more than passive resistance to arrest this underscores another problem with our laws, the war on drugs. If it wasn't for the welfare state, the war on drugs and the CIA helping to perpetuate the drug problem (look up Freeway Rick Ross if you doubt me, it ties into Iran Contra) they would probably still have some of the best rates of families staying together and we all know family is the core of a community and without it everything devolves.

    The victim culture and lack of family values is the issue, not drugs and how they're illegal.
     

    orbitup

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