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Why "Not" 40 Caliber?

Discussion in 'Handguns' started by Charlie, Feb 15, 2020.

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  1. zackmars

    zackmars Well-Known

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    Face and lower torso
     


  2. satx78247

    satx78247 TGT Addict

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    Texasgordo,

    That is precisely WHY that I have not yet bought a SIG in .40 S&W. = I just don't like/want a DAK in .357 or .40 caliber.

    yours, satx
     
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  3. candcallen

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    The round/p90 was designed as a PDW specifically to penetrate body armor on the battle field. Since those rounds arent available you have lost the reason to use it, that is the cost isnt worth it IMHO.

    A glock of any caliber placed in places body armor doesnt cover, nose down to top of body armor or the triangle above the body armor to the chin, and training to be able to hit those spots is a much better return on your investment.
     
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  4. DyeF9

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    I wouldn't consider a Glock hitting where there's no body armor, penetrating/overcoming body armor. I'm aware of 5.7, I was only referring to the Glock statement.
     
  5. oldag

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    A .45 imparts twice the momentum of a 9 mm. And creates a hole roughly twice as big.

    Larger hole means larger wound channel, more nerves damaged and screaming. Twice the momentum means twice the impact of the round.

    These are not essentially the same thing.
     
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  6. oldag

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    People can talk about shot placement. So carry a .22, since you get even more rounds and after all a .22 between the eyes will kill. You know, that shot placement thing. Heck, get a needle gun and have even MORE capacity and even less recoil. It is a scientific fact that a perfectly placed needle can be fatal.

    Except for highly trained and experienced professionals, confidence is shot placement is not well placed (pun intended).

    Ok, so a person is supposed to achieve that perfect shot placement when the adrenaline is shooting through the body such that the hands may well be shaking, their heart is pounding so hard they can hear it in their ears, emotions are sky high, they are under attack and possibly under fire. Right. Great situation for the 95% of the people to achieve perfect shot placement. Umm, no. And a number of soldiers who have seen combat and LEO's who have been in gunfights have related these exact sentiments to me. And I value their experience more than that of any keyboard jockey.

    Bigger hole, more damage. Great likelihood of hitting something that will discourage the attacker from continuing. Shots don't have to be fatal, they do need to inflict enough pain and/or damage that the attacker either loses the will to keep up the attack or they cannot keep up the attack.
     
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  7. Charlie

    Charlie TGT Addict TGT Supporter

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    Excellent post!
     
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  8. DyeF9

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    Please research ballistics and affects of handgun rounds on tissue more...
     
  9. DyeF9

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    You determined this with exacting science and logic one would assume.
     
  10. TreyG-20

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    Damn it Charlie you ruffled some feathers with this one.

    As much as I would love to debate calibers I must get back on the range. Shooting 9 and 40 today. Also some 308. Miss me with that 6.5 CM crap. :stir:
     


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