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  • Southpaw

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    Thought I would pass this on. It had a bit more of an urgent feel to it then normal.


    I need you to call your Senators right away and urge them to OPPOSE all the gun control legislation that may be voted on as early as today.


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    You can reach your two Senators at 202-224-3121.
    Please call the Capitol Switchboard at that above number and then ask to speak to your two Senators.
    They are Sen. John Cornyn (R) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R).
    Anti-gun groups are having people call their Senators to push them to vote for gun control legislation that will threaten YOUR RIGHTS.
    And people are calling by the thousands to support gun control.
    Of course, your Second Amendment rights will be sacrificed -- all in the name of stopping people from buying guns if they’re on a government watch list.
    Here’s What We Know
    The Orlando killer wasn’t on a “no-fly” list.
    He wasn’t being currently investigated by the FBI.
    He passed numerous background checks, and was a licensed security guard in a courthouse.
    Thus, no amount of proposed federal gun control could have prevented the Orlando terrorist from purchasing a gun.
    This killer WAS an ISIS-loving terrorist who openly expressed his desire to engage in mass murder prior to his 911 declaration from the Pulse nightclub.
    He WAS the subject of an FBI investigation two years ago, and the FBI gave him a pass.
    And he committed his atrocity in a Gun-Free Zone, where all the victims were disarmed by law.
    Not surprisingly, the anti-gun Democrats in Washington are ignoring all this -- and are pressing for gun control legislation to pass today or later this week.
    Several Senate votes are expected on different pieces of legislation. Some are horrid. Others are bad, but just not as awful as the horrid bills.
    Gun Control Proposals Being Voted on Soon
    Anti-gun Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) will force a vote on legislation that allows the Justice Department to block gun sales to those on terror watch list.
    But while absolutely anyone can be placed on this list, there is no way for you to know if you’re on the list or not.

    In order to get off the watch list, you have to first challenge to Justice Department administratively, and then sue them.

    There is also text by Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT) to impose Universal Background Checks -- which would essentially result in universal registration of gun buyers.
    Finally, there may be some Constructive Republican Alternative Proposals (CRAP) that may be offered. These CRAP proposals are changing, almost minute by minute, so we will examine them and alert you as soon as possible.
    But bottom line, you simply need to tell your Senators to vote AGAINST all gun control this week.
    And while you're at it, tell them to vote FOR dismantling Gun-Free Zones and establishing concealed carry reciprocity -- two things that actually could have made a HUGE difference in Orlando.
    So again, I need you to call Sen. John Cornyn (R) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R) right away at 202-224-3121.
    Tell them to VOTE NO on any gun control legislation that comes up this week -- including the Feinstein and Murphyamendments.
    In Liberty,
    Erich Pratt
    Executive Director
    Gun Owners of America

    P.S. While I normally provide emails for you to send, there is no time for that today. Please call Sen. John Cornyn (R) and Sen. Ted Cruz (R) right away at 202-224-3121 -- and urge them to oppose ALL GUN CONTROL proposals this week. And urge them to tell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to bring up legislation repealing Gun-Free Zones and establishing concealed carry reciprocity.
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    locke_n_load

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    My message submitted to Cornyn's email (his voicemail was full and office did not answer).


    Senator Cornyn, I am writing to tell you that I oppose all gun control measures that are being voted on today. The Constitution is clear that the due process must be followed in order to revoke a citizen's rights. Using a secret list to have a court (without a jury and without facing one's accuser) revoke one's rights without being convicted of a crime is a blatant violation of the Constitution. Also, a right delayed is a right denied. Until someone is convicted, they have the same rights as another citizen. Thank you.

    Left Cruz a voicemail stating the same stating I know he wouldn't let us down.
     

    matefrio

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    Democrats: We want to make a list of people who can't own guns.
    Republicans: Ok, we want due process. Here are our terms. Even the NRA is good with these terms.
    Democrats: That's not how it should be done. Here's how the list should be made and we won't budge.
    Democrats: Extra! extra! REPUBLICANS WANT TERRORIST TO OWN GUNS!!
     

    XinTX

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    Democrats: We want to make a list of people who can't own guns.
    Republicans: Ok, we want due process. Here are our terms. Even the NRA is good with these terms.
    Democrats: That's not how it should be done. Here's how the list should be made and we won't budge.
    Democrats: Extra! extra! REPUBLICANS WANT TERRORIST TO OWN GUNS!!

    And CNNMSNBCABCNBCCBS will all chime in with the Democrats as well.
     

    locke_n_load

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    Good read, but the best is a link on the page:
    https://www.gunowners.org/news06222016.htm

    Dear Senator:Gun Owners of America is encouraging you to vote NO on the Collins-Ayotte amendment -- and will rate this as an anti-gun vote.
    The central problem with the Collins-Ayotte amendment is the same as the central problem with the Feinstein text that was defeated on Monday.
    Namely, Collins-Ayotte allows a highly politicized official to take away constitutional rights by fiat without any real due process -- and presumes it can compensate for this by a process to “get your rights back” which is virtually impossible to invoke.
    And while Collins-Ayotte purports to allow due process, it does so only for those who can afford to put up a substantial amount of money ahead of time, with the hope that they will get attorneys’ fees refunded to them after the fact.
    I mentioned yesterday that this amendment will NOT contain some of the protections for gun owners’ rights that were present in the Cornyn amendment.
    In addition to all these problems, I wanted to emphasize that this “review and appeals” process will NOT benefit the average gun owner.
    As our Legislative Counsel, Michael Hammond, says:
    The [appeals] process will be made even more lengthy and expensive by the fact that it must be filed in the docket-jammed courts of appeals -- which have recently, in all but two cases, been “packed” with anti-gun Obama appointees, largely by use of the “nuclear option.” The non-specific “expedited consideration” provisions may help a little, but not much.
    The “right to review” is triggered by an official notice of denial issued by the Attorney General. But section _____(a)(2) specifically gives the Attorney General the written statutory right to refuse to assign a unique identification number, apparently indefinitely. And most large retailers refuse to sell a firearm until this unique identification number is received, even if they are legally entitled to do so.
    You may not be aware of this, but the Obama administration has perfected the harassment of gun owners. The Justice Department has refused to comply with the statutory requirement that they tell prohibited persons why they have been denied the right to purchase a firearm.
    They do so, ever callously, while issuing the bureaucratic equivalent of “So sue us!” And, if you can’t figure out the reason for your denial, you can’t comply with the 60-day appeal filling process.
    As stated by our Legislative Counsel:
    If persons subject to denials have suffered these consequences, persons subject to inaction have had an even worse time getting a response. Last fall, the Justice Department announced that it has decided, illegally, to simply defund the processing of appeals.
    But there are other problems with the Collins-Ayotte amendment. Again, as stated by GOA’s Legislative Counsel:
    Under section ____(d)(3), the AG is specifically authorized to classify and withhold any information she chooses. A really expensive attorney with a high security clearance might be able to get around this, but still wouldn’t be able to circumvent assertions of “privilege.”
    Under section ____(d)(4), discovery is prohibited, except under extraordinary circumstances. Part of the proceedings will be “ex parte” (section ____(d)(6)), which means that the most important parts of the adjudication will consist of meetings, in chambers, between the judge and the government -– with the petitioner and his attorneys excluded.
    The procedure is de novo, but it is predicated on a “nothing-burger” standard that rests on the Attorney General’s perceptions.
    Senators Collins and Ayotte trumpet the point that, after the fact, the court “shall” award attorneys’ fees to the prevailing party.
    But as Mr. Hammond concludes:
    Collins may not understand that “legal fees” provisions have been in place for people fighting the government since the Buckley amendment in 1976. But these provisions have had little impact for non-wealthy litigants forced to pay the costs of litigation up-front and faced with, at best, a slight chance of reimbursement at the end of the process.
    In short, this sham procedure represents no remedy at all in the real world, and it certainly does not offset the fact that the individual’s constitutional rights were stripped preemptively by fiat by a politicized official with virtually unfettered discretion and a demonstrable animus toward guns.
    For all these reasons, Gun Owners of America urges you to vote NO on the Collins-Ayotte amendment -- and to focus instead on repealing Gun-Free Zones and passing concealed carry reciprocity.
    Again, GOA will be rating the Collins-Ayotte amendment as an anti-gun vote in its year-end rating.
    In Liberty,
    Erich Pratt
    Executive Director

    Gun Owners of America
     

    zincwarrior

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    I received these from the NRA, the TSRA, and some group I never heard about. Frankly, they are annoying. Even if I wanted them too, this is Texas in 2016. The politicians won't vote for anything.

    2017 of course may be a completely different world.
     

    usurp31

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    Democrats: We want to make a list of people who can't own guns.
    Republicans: Ok, we want due process. Here are our terms. Even the NRA is good with these terms.
    Democrats: That's not how it should be done. Here's how the list should be made and we won't budge.
    Democrats: Extra! extra! REPUBLICANS WANT TERRORIST TO OWN GUNS!!

    Yep!
     
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