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    candcallen

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    Glory to azov battalion.
    How about you go to the intro section and introduce yourself.


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    I saw this story on Revolver News today:

    This doesn't surprise me. I have no love for Russia, but I will not support a faction that is as bad or worse than those they are fighting. The enemy of my enemy may say they are my friend, but I've seen the results before.
     
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    Since May 16, a total of 959 Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered at Azovstal, including 80 wounded, 51 of them were taken to the Novoazovsk hospital in the "DPR"(Donetsk People's Republic).
    Surrendered not evacuated.
     
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    Since May 16, a total of 959 Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered at Azovstal, including 80 wounded, 51 of them were taken to the Novoazovsk hospital in the "DPR"(Donetsk People's Republic).
    Surrendered not evacuated.
    Героям слава!

    Авоз held up the invaders in the steel plant and killed many times their number. It was not a victory for the rashists, not by a long shot....

    Mariopul is Ukraine's Alamo, and while both fell, it delayed advances and accomplished their missions. It is not always the duty of a soldier to survive or avoid capture, it is to do their duty, which the men in the steel plant did.

    Russia is failing in nearly every attempt to advance, bashing themselves against prepared decences without proper air support and actually falling back in places, putting their logistics at risk AGAIN!

    And on the broader front:

    The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 18.05 were approximately:

    personnel - about 28,300 people were eliminated
    tanks - 1251 units,
    armored combat vehicles - 3043 units,
    artillery systems - 586 units,
    MLRS - 199 units,
    air defense means - 91 units,
    aircraft - 202 units,
    helicopters - 167 units,
    UAV operational and tactical level - 441 units,
    cruise missiles - 102 units,
    ships / boats - 13 units,
    automotive equipment and tank trucks - 2137 units,
    special equipment - 43

    Many of the equipment losses can be visually verified, even if Ukraine is perhaps counting loosely and the numbers are 25% too high it is still insane losses the rashists are dealing with.

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    Since May 16, a total of 959 Ukrainian soldiers have surrendered at Azovstal, including 80 wounded, 51 of them were taken to the Novoazovsk hospital in the "DPR"(Donetsk People's Republic).
    Surrendered not evacuated.
    And how long did they hold the Russian invaders off, tying up significant Russian forces?

    How many Russian casualties did they inflict?

    Guess you are in bed with the Russian dictator.
     

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    Героям слава!

    Авоз held up the invaders in the steel plant and killed many times their number. It was not a victory for the rashists, not by a long shot....

    Mariopul is Ukraine's Alamo, and while both fell, it delayed advances and accomplished their missions. It is not always the duty of a soldier to survive or avoid capture, it is to do their duty, which the men in the steel plant did.

    Russia is failing in nearly every attempt to advance, bashing themselves against prepared decences without proper air support and actually falling back in places, putting their logistics at risk AGAIN!

    And on the broader front:

    The total combat losses of the enemy from 24.02 to 18.05 were approximately:

    personnel - about 28,300 people were eliminated
    tanks - 1251 units,
    armored combat vehicles - 3043 units,
    artillery systems - 586 units,
    MLRS - 199 units,
    air defense means - 91 units,
    aircraft - 202 units,
    helicopters - 167 units,
    UAV operational and tactical level - 441 units,
    cruise missiles - 102 units,
    ships / boats - 13 units,
    automotive equipment and tank trucks - 2137 units,
    special equipment - 43

    Many of the equipment losses can be visually verified, even if Ukraine is perhaps counting loosely and the numbers are 25% too high it is still insane losses the rashists are dealing with.

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    Of course we believe in everything that the Office of the Ukrainian President says.
    That is not even funny anymore.
     
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    And how long did they hold the Russian invaders off, tying up significant Russian forces?

    How many Russian casualties did they inflict?

    Guess you are in bed with the Russian dictator.
    1. 80 or 85 days , not sure exactly.
    Significant? You know numbers?
    2. No body knows. Maybe Russian minister of defense.
    I'm in bed with my wife.
    Not sure about you. But, that is your choice.
    Mr. VZ (Vladimir Zelensky) love your message.
     

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    Beacon to heroes!!:roflfunny:
    Of course we believe in everything that the Office of the Ukrainian President says.
    That is not even funny anymore.
    Many other organizations with a reputation for being correct, and a reputation that depends on being correct, still place the rashist loses as VERY high, so high they are be politically and socially unsustainable.

    I am not pro (or anti) Zelensky, but I am anti-rashist invasion of a sovereign nation without just cause. "Nazis" is not a good enough reason.

    I have a couple of questions:

    Do you think Russia was justified in this war (of the start is 2014, you can split your opinion of Crimea)

    What do you think Russia's goal in Ukraine is?

    Is Russia meeting that goal?

    Where do you estimate casualties for Russia to be at?

    What will victory look like for Russia? I.e. when will the job be dont enough to be done.

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