Tyranny?: Why the ATF (Biden' s AFT) MUST BE Weaponized by the Commies...

[Alpha.Geek]

Gun control is a losing argument, so they have to resort to agenda-pushes w/out due process:

More people using logic and buying guns, rather than knee-jerk emotional outcries for legislation, and we can't have that..
It defeats their narrative.

 

[gll]

People will buy more guns the more they feel threatened that they will not be able to buy guns, at least until they can no longer buy guns, and then what they will do remains to be seen...

...but, it may not be pretty.

 

[paknheat]

FJB!


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[38 and 45]

I definitely bought firearms for fear of a Biden ban on those.

 

[leVieux]

AMMO !

 

[Alpha.Geek]

I don't think they realize that every time they even mention bans, they drive millions more people to be first time gun owners, and drive millions more guns to be purchased in addition...

Then again, maybe they do, and then state they stimulated the economy after the fact?

 

[Darkpriest667]

AMMO !

I was going to say, I'd love to see the ammunition sales numbers. Then we have good old Federal retooling an entire factory to build 30CC which no one I know has even bought one.

 

[toddnjoyce]

I was going to say, I'd love to see the ammunition sales numbers. ….

No need to, the numbers are all of them. Except for maybe federal’s .30WTF. Kinda reminds me of the .327FedMag. Solutions in search of a problem.

There’s a reason .380 is kind of the bottom of the defensive pistol ballistic chart.

 

[leVieux]

I was going to say, I'd love to see the ammunition sales numbers. Then we have good old Federal retooling an entire factory to build 30CC which no one I know has even bought one.

OK,you've got me on that one. What is "30CC" ?

 

[Darkpriest667]

OK,you've got me on that one. What is "30CC" ?

30 super carry. Its so stupid I've already erased it from my brain

 

[leVieux]

30 super carry. Its so stupid I've already erased it from my brain

Several years back I helped care for the two NOPD officers who had been shot upper mid-abdomen on a "traffic stop". Both had extensive internal injuries from a regular .380. It was a bad deal all around, as the two who were shot & hit were the only two out of the six officers who weren't wearing body armor. I was very surprised by the extent of the injuries from a .380 !

 

[TheDan]

Then we have good old Federal retooling an entire factory to build 30CC

 

[V-Tach]

Some distributors are pushing the S&W in that caliber pretty hard.....and cheap...<$400.00

Other than Nighthawk's 1911, AFAIK no one else is making pistols in that caliber...

 

[Darkpriest667]

Some distributors are pushing the S&W in that caliber pretty hard.....and cheap...<$400.00

Other than Nighthawk's 1911, AFAIK no one else is making pistols in that caliber...

Again, do any of us know someone that owns one? LOL The gun shills on youtube pushed it pretty hard. I doubt any of them carry a 30SC as their sidearm. I'll stick with 9mm until mass adoption by NATO of another caliber.

 

[V-Tach]

Agreed...

in 16 years I never sold a single box of 327 Federal or gun.....

 

[leVieux]

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"I'll stick with 9mm until mass adoption by NATO of another caliber".

This

Exactly !

 

[TheDan]

Some distributors are pushing the S&W in that caliber pretty hard.....and cheap...<$400.00

Make it $300 and I'm in. That way I can buy a 9mm barrel and still be even

That's how I ended up with a couple of my .40s. Bought .357sig guns cheap because no one wanted them and swapped in a .40 barrel.

 

[toddnjoyce]

Some distributors are pushing the S&W in that caliber pretty hard.....and cheap...
Other than Nighthawk's 1911, AFAIK no one else is making pistols in that caliber...

I’d buy a nighthawk in 30WTF for under $400, but that’s just to have a nighthawk next to the WC.

 

[popper]

Was at Academy yesterday to pick up her from a trip, went in to look around. Gun desk had a line, on Sunday! They had mostly pistols and ammo, no reloading stuff, few rifles. Few looking at clothes and shoes, couple people in the fishing dept. Actually just went in to use restroom, sat in lot for an hour waiting. Women, got a text, be there at 4pm, then 30 min out, then 40 min out.

 

[Alpha.Geek]

I had never shot .380 before, as 9mm was what I was issued, I assumed 9mm was best...
I have ALWAYS HATED .380 since I started reloading 9mm, as it ALWAYS gets in my 9mm range pickup brass (wife, son, and daughter always "helped" with range pick-up).

Saw the Ruger LCP MAX .380, realized it held as many in the mag as my Sig 365, BUT substantially smaller, and said... SURE, I'll try it for $269 for the gun and one mag... It was thinner than the 365, and the barrel was not even half as thick, from a quick glance... Nice and LIGHT, and came with a pocket holster.

I took it to the range and the factory-new SD/HD JHP hot loads surprised me, and the FMJ range fodder I got were zippy too.

If I never have any malfunctions with it, I will continue to carry it, but I have a friend that had the Ruger LC-9(or was it LC-9s?), and it had some issues and they fixed it when he sent it in.

Currently, I'd trust my life to .380, in the LCP MAX, in ordinary circumstances (going to the gas station) as a carry-piece.
At Walmart, I'll pack a 9mm, though...