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This whole impeachment thing could turn out bad.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Antares, Dec 6, 2019.

  1. popper

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    'We (the House) indicted him, but the (Rep) Senate wouldn't convict him!' is the mantra Dems are getting ready. 'Senate is partizen!' Mostly BS. Now Hillary can jump in and get elected, as it should have been!
    Horowitz had to write his paper and try to get us to buy the 'mistakes' made by FBI, NSA, etc. It is a coup attempt WHICH IS TREASONOUS and UNCONSTITUTIONAL. Period!
    Durham needs indictments against the FBI (for starts) to quash the whole thing. Heard today Comey didn't extend his security clearance so he can't testify on anything.
    Burisma is important to Ukraine as OIL&GAS is a problem there. Rus trying to take over, but Burisma got the drill rights (cheap) and can set price. Kerry and Biden got caught in real us$ graft to Ukraine (via Burisma) but Dems trying to blame Trump as the culprit. Biden gets investigated and the whole bushel comes crashing down.
    Dionysis is just used to his 'bennys'. Doesn't want to lose them (Austin).
     


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  2. Inspector43

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    One fact that still bothers me - Trump asked Ukraine to look into corruption because it is a condition of military aide. I don't see where he actually mentioned the Biden family. However, it seems, the Democrats concluded that the major corruption in Ukraine involves the Biden family, therefore, Trump is trying to get the Biden's investigated.
     
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    Younggun Ginger Avenger TGT Supporter Admin

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    He didn’t even make it a condition of military aid.

    That keeps getting tossed around despite the Ukrainians saying it wasn’t true and those who testified said it was nothing more than their opinion.

    Also despite the fact that they met none of the supposed conditions.

    Also despite the fact that Trump has gone beyond what the Obama admin gave.


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  4. easy rider

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    Besides the 'fact' that the only witness the dems brought forward that actually talked to Trump (Sondland), asked Trump what he wanted from Ukraine and Trump said to him, "Nothing! I want nothing! I want no quid pro quo!"

    Must be an impeachable offence, because clearly that translates into "I'm scared Biden will beat me in the 2020 election."
     
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  5. candcallen

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    Very insightful and thoughtful commentary. I very much agree with your assessment.


    I would ask that someone can point me to any aid withheld? Any actual demands made as conditions? Anyone who testified with first hand knowledge of such things.

    Trump has been doing what he said he would regarding foreign aid since he took office. How do we know? The temper tantrums of ambassadors and state officials who are more than professionally invested in these situations.

    He discussed corruption and wanting to ensure something is done about it. Since Biden bragged about it I could care less if trump says look into this. Since Trump is the sole deciding force behind the United States foreign policy he can do what he wants in deciding such things.

    This whole thing is a setup. Traitors were reporting on everything trump to the house committee chairs and have been since the memo of understanding outlined their path to impeachment. They found something they thought would stick and had a lawyer hired by Schiff write the whistleblower complaint and file it. What they didnt know, probably didnt care about, is their info was 3rd hand which is why the complaint was trashed to begin with and why all the claims of bribery and quid quo pro didnt pass muster. Just like the Russian bullshit. This has fallen apart because the left overplayed a nonexistent hand yet again. 3 years of claims and nothing to show for corruption except what Biden bragged about on tape, stupid blowhard.

    I think part of the problem with Ukraine is you cant launder kickbacks skimmed from javelin missiles. They dont fit in briefcases nor can you deposit them in off shore accounts. They wanted to get money and since the Clinton foundation is kaput, with no Clinton to act on the bribes or launder them, nor is there any other easy way to accept the bribes they are pissed. Trump is all up in their koolaid aid, as the kids say, and that makes it hard for them.


    The trial will be interesting. No closed door leaks and everyone will have to testify and that includes motives. This will not end well for the left. The hypocrisy knows no bounds and Americans hate hypocrites.

    Why the left hasn't learned about video tape yet I will never understand. If I was trump or surrogates I'd be pumping the airwaves full of the lefts words on the Clinton impeachment and all the claims made that were wrong the last three years.

    Dont be surprised if they come to their senses and vote censure over impeachment.
     
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  6. Dad_Roman

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    Dammit again. You got a little sleep and picked up right where you left off.

    I think your dead on target. (except paragraph 1/1, shitty at listenin to advisors. I attribute that more to a steep learning curve on the rules of the "new" game)
     
  7. Inspector43

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    Did anyone notice that this decade ending 12/31/2019 is the first decade in history, well, the last 170 years, that we have not had a recession. The last decade with no recession was before the Civil War. That is big news as far as I am concerned.
     
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  8. easy rider

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    I doubt censure will be voted on, Pelosi already said that if they were to censure over wrong doing it would be impeachable instead, ruling out censure, and she has to authorize a vote of censure.
     
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  9. Younggun

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    I bet more Dems in the house vote against impeachment than Rs in the senate vote “for”.


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  10. easy rider

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    No bet.
     


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