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    Steven Greenhut: Carl's Jr. chewed up by California - Orange County Register


    Carl's Jr. chewed up by California
    March 18, 2011|By STEVEN GREENHUT

    California has changed dramatically since 1941, when Carl and Margaret Karcher scraped together about 325 bucks to start a hot dog cart in Los Angeles – a precursor to a drive-through restaurant they opened in Anaheim and which grew into the Carl's Jr. fast-food empire. The Karchers were household names in Southern California, not just for their restaurants but for their activism in conservative politics and Catholic charities.

    Whatever you think of the Karchers' politics, you've got to love the entrepreneurial story that surrounds their success and what it said about California in its heyday. The Karchers – he died in 2008 and she in 2006 – came to the Land of Opportunity from the staid backwater of Upper Sandusky, Ohio.

    California has beckoned many Midwesterners – and people from every part of America and the globe – not just because of its pleasant weather, but because of a culture of openness that allowed creative people to go as far as their ideas would take them. Unfortunately, people with energy and creativity are now likely to go elsewhere, to places where the state government has different attitudes toward the private sector.

    Indeed, CKE Restaurants, parent of Carl's Jr., is likely to move its headquarters from Carpinteria, near Ventura, to Texas and is undergoing a rapid expansion of restaurants in the Lone Star State. Right before the budget circus got going Wednesday, CKE CEO Andrew Puzder spoke at the California Chamber of Commerce, blocks from the Capitol dome. Like most of us, Puzder loves California and has no interest in leaving it, but he told harrowing tales about doing business in a state that has gone from an entrepreneurial heaven to a bureaucratic nightmare.

    "It costs us $250,000 more to build one California restaurant than in Texas," he said. "And once it is opened, we're not allowed to run it." This explains why Carl's is opening 300 restaurants in Texas and only maintaining its presence in California. Texas has lower taxes than California, but the reason for the shift has more to do with regulation and with the attitude of the respective governments.

    Puzder complained about the permitting process here, where it takes eight months to two years to open a new restaurant compared to an average of 1 1/2 months in Texas. In California, restaurants have to provide new curb cuts, new traffic lights, you name it. The company must endure so many requirements and must submit to so many inspections that it becomes excessively costly – and the bureaucrats are in charge of the project.

    Once the restaurant is open, Puzder said, the store's general managers are not allowed to run the business as if they own it. That's the key to the company's customer service approach – allowing general managers to do whatever it takes to make customers happy. But California's inflexible, union-designed work rules, for instance, classify general managers as regular employees. They must be paid overtime for any work beyond an eight-hour day. They must take mandated breaks at specified times.

    If a busload of customers comes to a store, these general managers must sit back and do nothing if they are on a break period. Most states have 40-hour workweek rules, meaning employees are paid overtime after exceeding 40 hours of work in a single week. In California it is based on the day, which limits the ability of managers to work, say, six hours one day and 10 hours the next day. Puzder complains about these industrial-era requirements that impede flexibility and harm customer service.

    And California law encourages "private attorney general" lawsuits against private businesses over overtime and other regulatory rules, which has created a huge financial incentive for attorneys to file questionable legal actions against restaurants.

    "It's not like we have kids working in coal mines or women working in sweatshops," Puzder said. It's not as if his workers in other states, where these regulatory rules don't exist, are oppressed, he added. "How does this help us instill entrepreneurial values?" He wonders how all these nonsensical rules teach people about being independent from the government rather than dependent on it.

    I'd argue that the rules are designed specifically to impede private enterprise and to hobble entrepreneurship. After all, the unions, trial attorneys and liberal legislators writing these rules believe that government is the answer to most problems and that private industry is a cancer.

    You can't work smarter, harder, longer or better." His company has had to fire hardworking store managers who insist on working longer hours than the state allows. He wants to tell these people, "Come to Texas, and we will hire you."

    The big debate at the Capitol has been whether to pass a budget with tax extensions. Gov. Jerry Brown and Democratic legislators believe the only thing wrong with California is that people here don't give the state enough of their paychecks. They believe this state has too-few government workers and too little oversight of business.

    As Brown said earlier in the week in reference to the Japanese earthquake: "A lot of people say, 'Just get the government out of the way.' Well, if you get 'em out of the way, people die." That's a perfect summation of the authoritarian and paternalistic attitudes in Sacramento, and a reminder that these problems are unlikely to change soon.

    "We can bring economic prosperity back to this state," Puzder added. "We don't need to be stimulated. We don't need to be subsidized. We need to be left alone."

    California officials mock such sentiments, just as they routinely mock Texas. But which state do you think will recover more quickly and better accommodates the dreams of today's version of the Karchers?
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    texas skeeter

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    they built a "Carls" and a "Del taco" right up the street from us. we've missed both those places since we moved here 4 yrs ago. and good for texas cause they both have tastey food!! Oh and F-CK that Dumbazz state of Crazifornia!! it just goes to show us HOW UN-BUSINESS FRIENDLY that state really is!! I'd be happy if ALL the big businesses left that state to shrivle up and DIE!!
     

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    Carl's is nothing to write home about, but this has been ongoing for California for decades. We've got a huge AMD complex in Austin, among other firms that came from California.
     

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    Carl's is nothing to write home about, but this has been ongoing for California for decades. We've got a huge AMD complex in Austin, among other firms that came from California.
    Just another fast food burger joint... but good for Texas economy since we are a population of fat fucks who eat burgers. I just prefer to get mine from a little better source.
     

    TrailDust

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    Progressivism is a death cult. I can't believe there are still businesses in that state...

    Neither can we. I have several friends who own small businesses, and they've mentioned repeatedly that if they were to try and start their businesses today there's no way they could do it in California. My only concern is when these idiots in the state legislature (plus Governor Brown and the unions) finally bankrupt this state, that the federal government isn't stupid enough to bail them out with borrowed money....:rolleyes: :banghead:


    Just another fast food burger joint... but good for Texas economy since we are a population of fat fucks who eat burgers. I just prefer to get mine from a little better source.

     

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    Last time in sucky southern Ca. ('07), Carls was running an ad campaign touting "Carls Jr, Home of the $6 Burger." Granted its a big burger but... I will always hold out for good ole In-n-Out Burger and their off the menu menu. Wow what-a-burger. Whataburger is my all time Texas favorite. If In-n-Out which is a private California company should ever expand to Texas I'd be keeping my big belly big on their real fries alone.
     

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    I find that I'm really not surprised by this issue in the Peoples' Яepublik of Kalifornia. In Lost Angeles, alone, they spent nearly $1.6 billion on the kids of illegal aliens. Someone has to pay for all that shit so the Kommiefornians have laid the cost of businesses of all types, big and small. They print their state documents in so many languages that it's a wonder that anyone can keep up with them.

    I don't blame Carl's Jr. for their plans to move corporate to a more tax-friendly state. Hell, we've got businesses here in Nevada that have just pulled up roots in Kommiefornia to come here for the business tax breaks AND no state income tax.

    When I occasionally get the urge for some kind of bacon cheeseburger, I'll trundle my old, fat ass over to the Carl's Jr. and order one of theirs. Yeah, it's fat...er...fast food. Yeah, it's probably not all that good for me, cholesterol-wise. But it tastes good and that's all I care about.

    Remember this motto:

    "Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, chocolate in one hand, martini in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming "WOO- HOO what a ride!"
     

    SiscoKid

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    Great story, I concur completely.

    Last year we had a Carl's Jr. open nearby. I seldom eat beef but wife brought some home. WOW!! It was Delicious. If I could eat burgers more I would certainly eat more. I have been meaning to get their Chicken Burger which I'm sure is just as good.

    About 20 years ago was the last time we visited La La Land. Relatives took us to Carl's Jr. It was one BIG burger, as I recall.
     

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    Carl's is nothing to write home about, but this has been ongoing for California for decades. We've got a huge AMD complex in Austin, among other firms that came from California.

    I might try them but they will have to go a long way to beat Whataburger.
     

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    Carl's reminds me of eating Hardee's in GA. The sauce was better than most. As for kalifornia I am just waiting for the earth to swallow it up one day. Sure will miss some of my relatives that moved there a few years ago! Ooh well I guess it's called culling the litter!
     
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