My my what ever did people do before the gooberment intervention into people's rights.
I'll tell you the same thing we told everyone when AZ started CC.
Carrying concealed is a commitment. People who want to already went thru the permitting process. People to lazy to are not gonna decide to all of a sudden get holsters and new clothes just because CC was passed. People who want to break laws already do so.
Absolutely nothing will change in the numbers or manner of carry after CC is passed. It hasn't changed anything in any state yet regarding noobs being unleashed untrained and a pestilence upon the land. No untrained yahoos ventilating themselves or others cause they can all of a sudden carry with out a permit. It is an argument that has never been born out as anything even approaching true.
That's handwringing bullshit.
Idiots are among you now with permits and training. People need to quit trying to control everyone's lives. Most have enough to worry about facing themselves in the mirror.
We allow people to drive drunk with no training so what could possibly go wrong with constitutional carry.
No any literate person reading my statement understands that I am concerned ONLY about unlicensed CONCEALED carry. AND no mention was made of unpaid instructors! I think that the state of Texas should offer the instruction free as a public safety issue. We certain fund a shitload of grants for studying everything from stars to turtle migration, money could be taken from some of those esoteric studies and fund real safety.
It’s already against the law to do illegal shit.There is no compromise. The Dems agenda is complete control. We already have over 22,000 firearms laws.
You don't understand. I'm not pro-compromise, I'm saying we need to push much harder if we want the average citizen to choose a middle-of-the road position.There is no compromise. The Dems agenda is complete control. We already have over 22,000 firearms laws.
What’s the definition of “Middle of the road”? Only screw me from a little bit of my 2A right?You don't understand. I'm not pro-compromise, I'm saying we need to push much harder if we want the average citizen to choose a middle-of-the road position.
Ah, you misunderstand "average" I see. If we are "reasonable" at 75% push, and the left is -50%, then average (some citizen saying, "why can't we just compromise?") to the undecided is somewhere in the middle. We need to push a LOT harder to make the "middle" somewhere closer to where we want it. That means perhaps pushing the lines a LOT harder, by pushing stuff that might actually sound silly to some, like actually requiring firearms ownership and training for adults, marksmanship in schools, yearly marksmanship and defensive training, etc...What’s the definition of “Middle of the road”? Only screw me from a little bit of my 2A right?
We can also do our part to make training easy and accessible. Wouldn’t hurt to push to require defensive marksmanship and martial arts training as optional public school classes as long as we are gonna keep those institutions...
We gotta start asking for WAAY more than we are willing to settle for. We need to push the compromises and concessions on the Democrats instead of the other way around.
I’ve never understood why we don’t understand bargaining tactics. If I want $5000 for a used car, I’d never post it for $4500 and settle for $4000... and the same goes for compromise legislation.
Guys, clearly we as gun owners are falling down on our duties. EVERY time restrictions on our rights are removed, the liberals promise blood in the streets. Gunfights over parking spaces. Bullets flying at little league games. And every time, we...well, we really disappoint those poor liberals. Being wrong every single fucking time has to hurt their tender feelings.
Can't we do better? Our self-appointed intellectual superiors are counting on us.
You don't understand me, still. I'm not arguing for compromise, I'm saying that the average voters will pick the middle ground. That's realism, not intentional compromise. So if you want the middle ground to be closer to what YOU want, you need to ask for MORE."Compromise" with the DEVIL has led us to this HELL already.
No, we are now backed into a corner and must be ready to actually FIGHT. Remember, we have them tremendously out-manned and out-gunned now. More waiting or more compromises will further weaken us. We MUST protect our Constitution today.
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Some of us understand. Semantics is confusing things.You don't understand me, still. I'm not arguing for compromise, I'm saying that the average voters will pick the middle ground. That's realism, not intentional compromise. So if you want the middle ground to be closer to what YOU want, you need to ask for MORE.