Senate fails to advance bill to guarantee abortion access nationwide

[AKM47]

Joe Manchin joined with all Senate Republicans in sinking the abortion codification bill​

Senate fails to advance bill to guarantee abortion access nationwide

A Democratic-led bill to guarantee abortion access nationwide failed to advance in the Senate Wednesday in a show vote designed to draw sharp political lines ahead of the midterm elections.

www.foxnews.com

 

[brashears9567]

He was likely instructed to do this to keep the issue in play for the election cycle that's coming up. Dems can say we need more seats, then we'll pass it. Hell, I don't know, just a guess.


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[1911'S 4 Me]

I think Joe Manchin is going to flip close to next election.
He is more R than some of the Rinos.

 

[candcallen]

Virtue signaling waste of payroll.

 

[Renegade]

Joe Manchin joined with all Senate Republicans in sinking the abortion codification bill​

Senate fails to advance bill to guarantee abortion access nationwide

A Democratic-led bill to guarantee abortion access nationwide failed to advance in the Senate Wednesday in a show vote designed to draw sharp political lines ahead of the midterm elections.

www.foxnews.com

Mannhin did join, but this was a cloture vote, they needed 60 votes. Wont stop Libs from blaming Manchin.

 

[Glenn B]

Even if it had passed, if the Supreme Court actually overturns Roe v Wade such a law passed by congress critters would likely be deemed unconstitutional.

 

[Vaquero]

Even if it had passed, if the Supreme Court actually overturns Roe v Wade such a law passed by congress critters would likely be deemed unconstitutional.

If it got passed by congress and signed by ... that imbecile...
It would become "constitutional ".

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

When will congress guarantee 'ammo' access?

 

[Vaquero]

When will congress guarantee 'ammo' access?

Never

 

[V-Tach]

Infanticide coming to a State near you..................

 

[Texas42]

Even if it had passed, if the Supreme Court actually overturns Roe v Wade such a law passed by congress critters would likely be deemed unconstitutional.

Depends. I thought the reason to overturn RvW was because it is based on abortion being an implicitly protected right.

If they pass legislation allowing it, I don’t see how they can call it unconstitutional. They just can’t pass an abortion law they like. .. . Because the vast majority of people don’t agree with using abortion on demand for birth control.

 

[Sasquatch]

Depends. I thought the reason to overturn RvW was because it is based on abortion being an implicitly protected right.

If they pass legislation allowing it, I don’t see how they can call it unconstitutional. They just can’t pass an abortion law they like. .. . Because the vast majority of people don’t agree with using abortion on demand for birth control.

Congress passes a lot of unconstitutional legislation that gets tossed by the courts. Same with state legislatures. Unless a constitutional amendment is passed and a law is entered into the constitution itself, any law that is found in conflict with the constitution can be rendered null by the court, even if 100% of the senate and house pass it and the white house occupant signs it.

 

[Renegade]

If it got passed by congress and signed by ... that imbecile...
It would become "constitutional ".

No it would become legislation. SCOTUS could still strike it down.

 

[Renegade]

Depends. I thought the reason to overturn RvW was because it is based on abortion being an implicitly protected right.

The reason is it is NOT an inalienable right. Thus it falls under 9th/10th Amendment.

 

[Army 1911]

Depends. I thought the reason to overturn RvW was because it is based on abortion being an implicitly protected right.

If they pass legislation allowing it, I don’t see how they can call it unconstitutional. They just can’t pass an abortion law they like. .. . Because the vast majority of people don’t agree with using abortion on demand for birth control.

10th Amendment. This is a state issue not federal.

 

[striker55]

Another attempt to get our minds off of the failure of the White House.

 

[gll]

Infanticide coming to a State near you..................

Infanticide actually makes more sense to me than abortion...

Every baby aborted is an unknown quantity, but by the time they are two, you'd probably know for sure whether you wanted to kill yours or not...

 

[gll]

If they pass legislation allowing it, I don’t see how they can call it unconstitutional.

If the court determined abortion was a violation of a right to life, then a law making abortion legal would be unconstitutional...

...much like a law denying the right to life of any other class, such as the elderly, handicapped, or poor would be unconstitutional. The only thing that continues to allow abortion to be debated is the question of when, legally, life begins. We have a much better conception of when life ends...

 

[candcallen]

Infanticide actually makes more sense to me than abortion...

Every baby aborted is an unknown quantity, but by the time they are two, you'd probably know for sure whether you wanted to kill yours or not...

Epic fail.

 

[bbbass]

Infanticide actually makes more sense to me than abortion...

Every baby aborted is an unknown quantity, but by the time they are two, you'd probably know for sure whether you wanted to kill yours or not...

I've often quipped that late-term abortion should be allowed to parents up until the child is 25yrs old... after all, we are relentlessly lectured that the brain is not fully developed until that age, and child crims should be let off easy or even let go free with no consequences.

If the court determined abortion was a violation of a right to life, then a law making abortion legal would be unconstitutional...

...much like a law denying the right to life of any other class, such as the elderly, handicapped, or poor would be unconstitutional. The only thing that continues to allow abortion to be debated is the question of when, legally, life begins. We have a much better conception of when life ends...

^^^ This.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Pretty hard to deny that depriving the unborn of life also eliminates their unalienable right to pursue happiness!

The legality of abortion turned on the court arbitrarily and, IMO, capriciously ruling that a unborn baby is not a "human" until it has exited the womb. It is only the advent of modern HD ultrasound scans that has educated the gen pop to a different understanding of when life begins.

I have my own belief/thinking on when life begins, but we should remain wary that the legality of abortion (fetal murder) will likely always turn on:

1. When life begins
2. A fetus is just tissue
3. This "tissue" is part of a woman's body (belongs to, or ownership of the woman)
4. Something else that I seem to have forgotten. Sigh. Aging sucks!! (Edit: now I remember, since the fetus is said to be tissue that is part of a woman's body, then abortion becomes "women's health care" rather than murder of the unborn.)