Recommendations for home defense shotgun

[samr46]

Recommendations for quality, reasonable cost, reliable, ease of handling home defense shotgun and type of non-lethal load with potent stopping power. Prefer buttstock model. Thanks.

 

[candcallen]

Recommendations for quality, reasonable cost, reliable, ease of handling home defense shotgun and type of non-lethal load with potent stopping power. Prefer buttstock model. Thanks.

Mossberg 590A1

ETA THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS AN OPTION. LOL

 

[baboon]

Non leathal in the hands of the untrained can result in deaths.

 

[Wudidiz]

For non-lethal I use a sock full of quarters.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Here's a thread to peruse while waiting for replies....

Need advise on buying my first shotgun (for home defense)

I am a CHL holder and have 2 9MM pistols in my home, so I have some shooting experience. I am thinking of buying a Shotgun to add to my "arsenal". I have NO experience with shotguns and need some help to decide what to buy. Also, this is something that I would want my wife to be able to handle...

www.texasguntalk.com

 

[candcallen]

Recommendations for quality, reasonable cost, reliable, ease of handling home defense shotgun and type of non-lethal load with potent stopping power. Prefer buttstock model. Thanks.

Didnt see the non lethal part cause I was too quick to toot my for sale horn. Lol

As for 12 gage non lethal. I have fired a couple dozen rounds at people and directly observed a few times that. Bean bag, Rubber ball buck, large single ball and the missile. None work very well thru denim or coats. None work on committed people. They will make people flinch and slow down. They will make people who think when you get shot you're supposed to fall fall down and some people give up.

They are best used in conjunction with other folks who can take advantage of that momentary shock and restrain them or other less lethal tools like gas or taser. None of which you alone in your home have access to. A crap shoot. What will you do when they fight thru that and call your bluff?

I would seriously consider reevaluating your thought process here. If you are forced to defend your home then defend your home. In rare instances Less lethal can still kill thru kinetic impact or forcing a fall etc. That's why it's called less lethal. Not non lethal
By using less lethal in home defense you are giving someone who is there to harm you more chances to succeed.

Dont do that, it's insane.

Stop the threat immediately.

 

[deemus]

Mossberg 590A1

ETA THE SEARCH FUNCTION IS AN OPTION. LOL

You haven't sold that yet?

 

[candcallen]

You haven't sold that yet?

Shocking isnt it.

 

[deemus]

Yup. Good price for a good shotgun. I got 2.

 

[candcallen]

Yup. Good price for a good shotgun. I got 2.

Want 3? Lol

 

[etmo]

non-lethal load with potent stopping power.

This seems like a contradiction in terms. I agree with candcallen, nothing non-lethal can be said to have anything resembling potent stopping power.

 

[samr46]

For non-lethal I use a sock full of quarters.

Charles Bronson fan?

 

[samr46]

Didnt see the non lethal part cause I was too quick to toot my for sale horn. Lol

As for 12 gage non lethal. I have fired a couple dozen rounds at people and directly observed a few times that. Bean bag, Rubber ball buck, large single ball and the missile. None work very well thru denim or coats. None work on committed people. They will make people flinch and slow down. They will make people who think when you get shot you're supposed to fall fall down and some people give up.

They are best used in conjunction with other folks who can take advantage of that momentary shock and restrain them or other less lethal tools like gas or taser. None of which you alone in your home have access to. A crap shoot. What will you do when they fight thru that and call your bluff?

I would seriously consider reevaluating your thought process here. If you are forced to defend your home then defend your home. In rare instances Less lethal can still kill thru kinetic impact or forcing a fall etc. That's why it's called less lethal. Not non lethal
By using less lethal in home defense you are giving someone who is there to harm you more chances to succeed.

Dont do that, it's insane.

Stop the threat immediately.

Thanks. Maybe mix the ammo.

 

[DoubleDuty]

I would say a Mossberg Maverick 88 security 12ga

 

[General Zod]

If there's no justification for lethal ammo, then there's no justification for using a firearm. Get a taser. Otherwise, should you need to use your defense weapon, one of two things will happen: You'll piss your intruder off and get hurt, or you'll injure your intruder and he'll sue your pants off and your use of nonlethal ammo will be used against you in court.

It's the same reason we never, ever fire "warning shots".

Jacksonville man serving 20-year sentence for firing a warning shot

Eric Wright fired a warning shot in the grass after getting into an argument with his ex-girlfriend. Though he didn't strike anyone, he was found guilty and sentenced to 20 years in prison.

www.firstcoastnews.com

The warning shot that condemned Orville Lee Wollard to prison and changed Florida

SNEADS — Lee Wollard's life slowly spirals away, following the trail of the gunshot he fired into a wall.

www.tampabay.com

Marissa Alexander, Fla. woman jailed for firing a "warning shot," now free

Marissa Alexander says she is going to focus on helping victims of domestic violence navigate the criminal justice system

www.cbsnews.com

 

[candcallen]

Thanks. Maybe mix the ammo.

Sounds like you already had your mind made up. Why ask then?

That less lethal stuff isnt exactly accurate nor does it fly like shot.

The rubber buck isnt consistent in spread. The bean bag and large stinger ball can be unpredictable at best and even the missile shaped projo can veer off in any direction. Good enough for down the hall I guess.

 

[Axxe55]

Thanks. Maybe mix the ammo.

If you are unable, or unwilling to use up to deadly force to defend yourself, your loved ones and your property, find other means than a gun for home defense.

"Less than lethal" doesn't mean"Non-lethal". Hitting a person woth a "less than lethal" round in the wrong part of the body could still inflict death.

 

[rotor]

If a cop uses less than lethal and knocks your eye out the city gets sued. If you do the same do I need to say it...............

 

[Axxe55]

OP might want to forget getting a gun of any type and maybe save up for the lawsuit.

 

[V-Tach]

Less than lethal = less than reliable..............

jmho.........