Pistol Brace Amnesty/Registration

[Maverick44]

oh man ive been completely out of the loop here... so pistol braced rifle platforms are now illegal if you dont NFA stamp them as an SBR? jesus christ

Not yet. ATF decision is pending, and it will likely be in litigation for quite some time after they try to make it official.

 

[oldag]

Not yet. ATF decision is pending, and it will likely be in litigation for quite some time after they try to make it official.

But will a stay be issued while litigation proceeds? Not necessarily.

 

[Maverick44]

But will a stay be issued while litigation proceeds? Not necessarily.

Considering the impact that not issuing a stay would have, any competent judge should issue it. The question is, is the judge going to be competent?

 

[RoundRockRed]

The way the ATF is losing it's authority to make arbitrary laws, I am not really worried about this one. Bruin was a godsend in peeling back ATF overreach. California and Illinois are losing their BS laws on assault rifles, magazine capacity, ammunition sales, concealed carry, and more.
The ATF will likely not be able to give an augment that their frame/receiver bans are legal in light of Bruin, and pistol braces will be in the same boat. It's amazing when the supreems are doing their jobs, instead of playing activist.

 

[Eastexasrick]

Todd may want to address this as I do not have a complete grasp of venue shopping at the federal level. Per Maverick's point about a competent Judge, I give you U.S. District Judge Mark Pittman. A red neck from Midland. If his court is a proper venue, that's it.

 

[Here4TheChix]

I thought the final rule was to be in Dec, which gives owners months of time after that to decide what to do with them, last I heard...
before it goes into effect.

Someone I know got their 80% with the jig, after the ATF got their regulations blocked,
so who knows if this brace-crapola will get blocked also...



I wonder if everything the ATF is doing can be nullified with the fact that everything they want to do, is already owned, and in "common-use"...

Additionally:


So it does appear Dec 2022 the final ATF ideas should drop, then will take effect Apr 2023, allowing for 4 months to make a choice, providing that they don't get this brace-rule crushed before that, due to the recent WV vs. EPA, AND the Bruen decision.

 

[JamesFinTexas]

I thought the final rule was to be in Dec, which gives owners months of time after that to decide what to do with them, last I heard...
before it goes into effect.

Someone I know got their 80% with the jig, after the ATF got their regulations blocked,
so who knows if this brace-crapola will get blocked also...



I wonder if everything the ATF is doing can be nullified with the fact that everything they want to do, is already owned, and in "common-use"...

Additionally:


So it does appear Dec 2022 the final ATF ideas should drop, then will take effect Apr 2023, allowing for 4 months to make a choice, providing that they don't get this brace-rule crushed before that, due to the recent WV vs. EPA, AND the Bruen decision.

These video are extremely helpful to understand the complexity of the proposed rule. Thank you!

 

[Bozz10mm]

The pistol brace rule that was supposed to drop sometime in December has been postponed to January, maybe February. There is a small chance it won't be imposed at all, IMHO.

 

[vmax]

..there are now alot of unfortunate boating accidents on hold as well

 

[jordanmills]

I think they got a bigger win out of redefining a receiver.

 

[Tnhawk]

..there are now alot of unfortunate boating accidents on hold as well

I may need to schedule a trip with Titanic Boat Rentals.

 

[pronstar]

I won’t register until/unless lawsuits against this are resolved, which won’t be filed until the rule takes effect.

 

[oldag]

Last I read it would go into effect in April.

 

[TheDan]

intentionally confusing

 

[Bozz10mm]

Last I read it would go into effect in April.

I read that it would go in to effect 120 days after the rule was published, so maybe that is pushed back too. Or maybe not, can't trust anything the ATF says.

 

[oldag]

I read that it would go in to effect 120 days after the rule was published, so maybe that is pushed back too. Or maybe not, can't trust anything the ATF says.

Correct. Does anyone know if the rule has been published yet?

 

[Bozz10mm]

Correct. Does anyone know if the rule has been published yet?

It has not been published yet. Delayed until next month.

See the video in post #68 for more info.

 

[S13]

The amount of noncompliance with this will, and should be, massive.

 

[Bozz10mm]

The amount of law suits filed should be massive. They (GOA, 2AF, FPC, et al) are just waiting for the rule to drop before filing. I wonder if the NRA will do anything.

 

[vmax]

The amount of law suits filed should be massive. They (GOA, 2AF, FPC, et al) are just waiting for the rule to drop before filing. I wonder if the NRA will do anything.

Remember the NY Safe ACT?
Yeah..

The great majority of the guns that were targeted for registration never were because fuk them thats why

Why should it not be any different anywhere else?