Original CHL Holders Thread

[IXLR8]

How many of those of us that endured the original Texas CHL requirements for firearms use education feel that it was excessive.

I am fully for constitutional carry. However I feel that not having the same knowledge as someone that has not participated in the 10 hour course is not as well prepared.

What say you?

 

[kyletxria1911a1]

Mine was 12hrs

 

[ZX9RCAM]

Another constitutional carry thread?

 

[skfullgun]

Yep. Training took place over two days.

 

[TipBledsoe]

The LTC 2-day course is not excessive whatsoever.
I don’t disagree with CC, but it must be accompanied by a person who is safety conscious, responsible, cautious, wiling and able to learn the laws.

 

[Renegade]

I thought it was invaluable.

Many folks (including me at the time ~1995) are unaware or downright wrong on many aspects of SD and carry laws. Remember you could not just pullup the statutes like you can today.

 

[IXLR8]

Is it me, or is it impossible to impart 12 hours of learning into none. If you know the rules then awesome. If you don’t, then it is your responsibility to know then.

Sorry, there is “I didn’t know that “ defense….is not acceptable.

 

[TexasRedneck]

I constantly study firearms laws, even those I "know", because there's so many it's easy to forget or get hazy on some of them. Having said that, I'm not going to belittle those that carry under CC law. It's on them to know what they're doing.

 

[no2gates]

I only had the 8-hour one myself.
I think training is an excellent idea, however, it's not the government's place to say if someone can carry a weapon or not. It's kind of implied in the second amendment.

 

[Grumps21]

I feel that it’s a right to carry, but I think there is merit in the course. I have no regrets in taking the course. Really, I think the LTC course is a good CYA because it forces a basic knowledge of the laws. I think folks are better prepared after taking the course

 

[retrieverman]

My first class in January 1996 was taught by a lawyer in Longview, and it was pretty intense.

 

[V-Tach]

Moved here from OK in 96....had an OK CHL, but took the class, yes it was two full days.....

No regrets...........

 

[striker55]

I thought it was bs, instructor said no one fails.

 

[TexasRedneck]

I thought it was bs, instructor said no one fails.

As with any educational class, you get out of it what you put in. I take CE courses every 2 years in water treatment, even though I've corrected the "instructors" repeatedly when they were giving incorrect information. My license is 3 digits, had it since 1978.....lol

 

[mongoose]

I’ve learned more here from you folks. Hadn’t shot a gun in 7 years and I shot a perfect score ( so the practical is a joke). I support CC. Not anyone’s business ( especially the Government and their licensing of a right ). We’ve had CC OC for years with no problems that I’ve heard about.

 

[justmax]

I have been licensed to carry under several names since the late '80s. Ohio, South Carolina, and Texas all required training. Georgia was my favorite permit. No training, no picture, just a print of your trigger finger.

 

[gll]

No matter the merits of any training or even advanced training, the 2nd Amendment doesn't require it of the people...,

...but if the militias were properly established by the several states, training would be nearly universal.

 

[ZX9RCAM]

I have been licensed to carry under several names since the late '80s. Ohio, South Carolina, and Texas all required training. Georgia was my favorite permit. No training, no picture, just a print of your trigger finger.

Bond, James Bond....

 

[bigtex10mm]

I was lucky enough to have an excellent instructor for my CHL. I took my class (12 hours long) and really learned a lot about Texas gun laws. He was a military police Captain and was really interesting how he presented the class. I later became his Range Officer for many years before he retired. There was a mention above that an instructor would not fail you.....my instructor would, and did if you could not prove proficiency with your chosen firearm. I know of two that had to re-qualify during range time of another class to get the documents signed. No extra charge to do so but he was not going to sign off on you if you could not meet the minimum requirements. There were several classes where the attendees were removing the gun, they were qualifying with, from the plastic manufacturers wrap for the first time. The gun had never been properly cleaned or had a round through it. One guy actually brought a new 1911 and brought .45 long colt ammo to shoot. Some were able to qualify others did not. I have and always will believe that anyone carrying a gun, legally, should have to prove proficiency especially after what I saw some do during their CHL qualifications!!

 

[deemus]

While I agree 2A provides the right to carry, it in no way prepares you for understanding laws and what happens if you shoot someone.

The class would be beneficial to everyone. I feel more prepared having taken that marathon class. And we had a couple that failed. Had to retake it.

I agree that many who are CCing with no prior training are at risk. CC gives the right to carry. But some of them need education about carrying.

Would you let a charge nurse remove your gall bladder? There’s a reason doctors perform that task.