M1 Goes Kaboom
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I would ditch the brass too. Could very well be brittle.
M1's are stupid tough. Other than the op-rod, an M1 can take absolutely insane levels of pressure.
Glad the shooter was safe.
I had good experiences with fulton armory, but it was a bit of a long wait
M1's are stupid tough. Other than the op-rod, an M1 can take absolutely insane levels of pressure.
Glad the shooter was safe.
I had good experiences with fulton armory, but it was a bit of a long wait
FWIW, Springfield tried to blow up an M1, they got to 125k PSI (iirc) when they had a bolt lug shear and a stock blow out.
They replaced the stock and shot 5k rounds of M2 ball with no issues. Realistically the rifle should be fine, especially if it passes a function check, but i understand wanting to be cautious
They replaced the stock and shot 5k rounds of M2 ball with no issues. Realistically the rifle should be fine, especially if it passes a function check, but i understand wanting to be cautious
Shots actually.
If not for Glock's superior metal treatments and coatings, you'd have found out what 'corrosive' means.
My father had an M2 Carbine bolt fail, with the extractor getting embedded in his brother's forehead. They didn't realize the bolt had failed - Dad was firing busts when his brother started screaming, they thought it was a ricochet or something - and had a hell of a time explaining to the hospital (and cops) about the 'accidental gunshot wound' until the doctor extracted the errant extractor!
My father fired a bunch of that crap in a Sten, the barrel corroded before he got home to clean it.
Eli
Well that’s a shame.
Always sad to see a wonderful old rifle get blowed the *uck up.
Looks like you can harvest most of the parts to build out another.
I’d be very suspect of the barrel. May as well replace it with a fresh one.
Always sad to see a wonderful old rifle get blowed the *uck up.
Looks like you can harvest most of the parts to build out another.
I’d be very suspect of the barrel. May as well replace it with a fresh one.
Update ... Turkish ammo will soon be traded.
While I await the call from the CMP to return my H&R rifle for repair, I went ahead and purchased another U.S. Rifle, .30 Cal., M1.
The new rifle is another CMP rifle; a Springfield with all original parts, including stock. Throat measures 1+ and the muzzle measures 1. The serial number puts this rifle being manufactured in 1957 and the barrel is dated June 1956. This rifle was made right near the end of Springfield's production of M1's.
Also picked up some newly manufactured Prvi Partizan ammo to run through the newly acquired M1.
Pictures of the new rifle.
Now to find some time to get this rifle out and sighted in.
While I await the call from the CMP to return my H&R rifle for repair, I went ahead and purchased another U.S. Rifle, .30 Cal., M1.
The new rifle is another CMP rifle; a Springfield with all original parts, including stock. Throat measures 1+ and the muzzle measures 1. The serial number puts this rifle being manufactured in 1957 and the barrel is dated June 1956. This rifle was made right near the end of Springfield's production of M1's.
Also picked up some newly manufactured Prvi Partizan ammo to run through the newly acquired M1.
Pictures of the new rifle.
Now to find some time to get this rifle out and sighted in.
Update on the MKE ammo.
The fellow who I traded it away to finally got around to pulling apart the MKE 65 ammo. He reports that the powder was fine and all weighed in at 51.5 gr. +/- 0.2. gr., the bullet sealant was broken down extensively, but the most damning item he found was that around 20 percent of the cases would not seat in a case gauge. Apparently the cases weren’t sized all the way to the base and protruded out of the gauge. Most around 1/32”, but some at almost 1/8”.
His conclusion is that the round that did in my rifle didn't get into full battery when fired. Given what the kaboom case looks like, I'm inclined to agree with this conclusion
He did resize some of the cases that didn't pass the case test, then reloaded using the same powder and charge and the same bullets and they fired fine out of his old $100 beater Garand.
So there you have it … if you have any MKE ammo, I strongly suggest that you drop it into a case gauge before firing it. Pull apart any that don’t pass and resize the case before reassembling and shooting.
This might just be some good advice for any surplus ammo.
The fellow who I traded it away to finally got around to pulling apart the MKE 65 ammo. He reports that the powder was fine and all weighed in at 51.5 gr. +/- 0.2. gr., the bullet sealant was broken down extensively, but the most damning item he found was that around 20 percent of the cases would not seat in a case gauge. Apparently the cases weren’t sized all the way to the base and protruded out of the gauge. Most around 1/32”, but some at almost 1/8”.
His conclusion is that the round that did in my rifle didn't get into full battery when fired. Given what the kaboom case looks like, I'm inclined to agree with this conclusion
He did resize some of the cases that didn't pass the case test, then reloaded using the same powder and charge and the same bullets and they fired fine out of his old $100 beater Garand.
So there you have it … if you have any MKE ammo, I strongly suggest that you drop it into a case gauge before firing it. Pull apart any that don’t pass and resize the case before reassembling and shooting.
This might just be some good advice for any surplus ammo.
Maverick44
Youngest old man on TGT.
The Turkish 8mm stuff is horrible. It will destroy any semi auto you stick it in, and I have seen it crack a K98 stock.
I don't know what powder they used or how it was stored, but it has obviously degraded and is now overpressure. The best thing to do with the stuff it to pull the bullets, dump the powder, and reload it with new powder. The primers are still corrosive, so you have to deal with that though.
I don't know if i agree your rifle fired OOB. The M1 has a really good OOB safety.
I don't have the rifle or ammo in front of me, but my guess is brittle brass caused a case head failure. That old turk ammo is known to have brittle brass
