Jesus...if that was Dad's house, was he murdered with his own gun? Seems a possibility, even if remote.
It was Kyle family house.
Jesus...if that was Dad's house, was he murdered with his own gun? Seems a possibility, even if remote.
If never considered this, but I great reason to keep the guns in a divorce. Turns out she will use them and her new BF to kill you.
Kidding around a little bit. But I'm not alone. See post 99, 98, 95, 92, 91, 65, 55.So, you're claiming this was premediated?
I'm not saying that is what happened, or she had any hand in orchestrating the death of here ex-husband, but it has happened many times before of getting rid of an ex, by such means.Kidding around a little bit. But I'm not alone. See post 99, 98, 95, 92, 91, 65, 55.
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If guns get drawn, and you did not bring your own, time to haul ass out of there, not try to take someone else’s gun. Lessons to live by.Don't grab my gun.
Lotta ways to get to this point.
Just as many ways to avoid it.
But don't grab my gun.
Coincidence. I hear they exist but never seen one in real life.I'm not saying that is what happened, or she had any hand in orchestrating the death of here ex-husband, but it has happened many times before of getting rid of an ex, by such means.
Not far-fetched by any measure.
And most investigators don't believe in them either..Coincidence. I hear they exist but never seen one in real life.
Something to think about, tactically. Blue shirt has a chance at tactical advantage before the first shot goes off. He closed the ground, however he never really got control of black shirt. His mistake was trying to bat or grab the gun. Fûck that, get a handful of shirt and pull the threat closer.
From there, if blue shirt had a push dagger or fixed blade, he can gut black shirt or attack the left kidney even without control of black shirt pretty quickly with a short blow, but it does increase the likelihood of getting shot.
But he was too busy chest-pushing and putting his face in the other guy's in an attempt to intimidate him. Then stupidly wrestling for the gun, which was a contest he lost. Big time.
Tactically, I'd say he lost the encounter when a firearm was presented. The correct tactical decision would've been a withdrawal until the police arrived and then court action to resolve the custody issue. Him going to the ex's house, trying to be all macho and intimidate her boyfriend, and then grabbing for the weapon...those all added up to two holes in his chest.
1) do not get yourself in this positionSomething to think about, tactically. Blue shirt has a chance at tactical advantage before the first shot goes off. He closed the ground, however he never really got control of black shirt. His mistake was trying to bat or grab the gun. Fûck that, get a handful of shirt and pull the threat closer.
From there, if blue shirt had a push dagger or fixed blade, he can gut black shirt or attack the left kidney even without control of black shirt pretty quickly with a short blow, but it does increase the likelihood of getting shot.
Something to think about, tactically. Blue shirt has a chance at tactical advantage before the first shot goes off. He closed the ground, however he never really got control of black shirt. His mistake was trying to bat or grab the gun. Fûck that, get a handful of shirt and pull the threat closer.
From there, if blue shirt had a push dagger or fixed blade, he can gut black shirt or attack the left kidney even without control of black shirt pretty quickly with a short blow, but it does increase the likelihood of getting shot.
But he was too busy chest-pushing and putting his face in the other guy's in an attempt to intimidate him. Then stupidly wrestling for the gun, which was a contest he lost. Big time.
Tactically, I'd say he lost the encounter when a firearm was presented. The correct tactical decision would've been a withdrawal until the police arrived and then court action to resolve the custody issue. Him going to the ex's house, trying to be all macho and intimidate her boyfriend, and then grabbing for the weapon...those all added up to two holes in his chest.
In this moment was his safest to take black shirt down. When avoiding power of strikes you close the gap. He has a text book arm lock and hip toss but going to the ground could be unwise as he could still get shot if black shirt has good reaction time and you fail to strip the gun. Blue shirts best chance was to tie up the arm, put him on the wall, keep the gap tight, and hold out until help arrives. And at that point if he starts shooting blind and really being dangerous you’re going to have to keep that gap tight on one hip and elbow his face into hamburger.In a situation like that where the guy comes out with a long gun - I'd much rather be at kissing distance than anything beyond arm length. While its not impossible to be shot with a long gun when hugging someone and tying up their arms, its a hell of a lot harder. As soon as they can get that gun off their body and do a rough body index, your chances of getting shot go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up. I agree with Todd's assessment above - dead guy, had he been armed with a blade and thinking more clearly could've ended Kyle's threat to his life really damn quick.
Ego, temper over a woman playing games with your kids and your right to see them, and clouded judgement can happen to the best of men. Damn shame it got this guy killed.
and that is exactly what happenedIn a situation like that where the guy comes out with a long gun - I'd much rather be at kissing distance than anything beyond arm length. While its not impossible to be shot with a long gun when hugging someone and tying up their arms, its a hell of a lot harder. As soon as they can get that gun off their body and do a rough body index, your chances of getting shot go waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay up. I agree with Todd's assessment above - dead guy, had he been armed with a blade and thinking more clearly could've ended Kyle's threat to his life really damn quick.
Ego, temper over a woman playing games with your kids and your right to see them, and clouded judgement can happen to the best of men. Damn shame it got this guy killed.