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    If you have white skin, you will be really uncomfortable in the coming decades.The anti-white bias is going to get worse and worse

    Not if whites stop cowering and placating those that use historical misdeeds of years long past to justify depriving whites of their rights. Heaping shameful accusations of racism or discrimination to silence our voices, for no other reason than to manipulate and coerce.

    Demonize our nations cultural heritage, the result will be the demonization of those who created it and benefitted from it. It's already happened, a deliberate, methodical, attack on our culture and rights.

    I've got a ton of reputable data that substantiates that fact. Anyone that thinks its tinfoil hat conspiracy bs should read Rand's and Stratfor's assessments and whitepapers.
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    One might wonder about the following: just who has been financing the hoards of immigrants that have surged up from S. America; who is creating and disseminating the controversial political narratives which ubiquitously spring forth across the country as if on command; who finances and directs the activities where BLM, ANTIFA and/or the strangest organizations of bizarre people suddenly appear equipped with signs and slogans in protest against problems that simply do not exist, or are virtually insignificant to our society (male toxicity, white privilege, women’s rights, social justice, gentrification, economic inequality, racism, on and on.....) with one common denominator..... it’s all concocted to distract, distort and destroy our national unity and undermine the foundations of our culture.

    Circumstantial evidence consisting of professionally devised strategic political narratives; coordinated support from politicians, public figures, Newspaper and Media Journalists, and groomed gadfly antagonists like David Hogg all parroting EXACTLY the same key words and phrases; timely, opportunistic red flag events; sudden accusations of past wrongdoing by political candidates or incumbents that uncannily appear at just the right time in election cycles; untimely deaths of witnesses and whistleblowers; a remarkably consistent consensus of opinion reflected in the voting pattern of Democratic Congressional Representatives. All this points to a single powerful organized system of command and control. The adage, “Where there’s smoke, there’s fire.” seems apropos in this time of cultural upheaval.

    The USA is nearly the only western country that has resisted the socialist onslaught. Europe is a mess and Britain is shaken. The only major countries that are unscathed by this kind of political unrest and social chaos are China and Russia.....and it isn’t beyond speculation to suspect that one or both of them may be involved with our problems here at home.

    I am not saying that all this is so, but I’m watching.....which is more than a vast majority of our professional journalists are doing.

    Interesting perspective, more so considering you've come to that conclusion using nothing more than open source intel. And you're right, it's happening and were sitting on our asses doing nothing to stop it.

    Anyone who dismisses the notion that our country could be attacked should ask themselves why and the hell our nation has spent trillions of dollars on defense; 10 carrier strike groups, military bases on every continent, subs with nukes dispersed around the world. One sub has enough firepower to obliterate europe and asia, and we have more than enough to destroy the entire planet. Money, resources, manpower, it took a significant amount of resources to create and sustain our military. World events and history have proven that defending our nation from threats is rational and necessary.

    Why attack when the same strategic goals can be accomplished with zero bloodshed. It's a simple matter of undermining the cultural fabric that holds this nation together, alienating the minority population and displacing/diluting white culture until its no longer relevant.

    It's not racist to want to live in a place of familiarity with folks you identify with. It's not racist to want to protect our nations culture and citizens from an invasion of illegal immigrants that are willing to break our laws to reap benefits that they're not entitled to. Dragging a child thousands of miles on a journey, no resources to provide for that child, would land a US citizen in prison. Yet they do it, then say they're being mistreated when they get here.

    Our OWN elected officials, AOC in particular, spread blatant lies and continues to obfuscate and ignore the truth to further the leftist agenda. An agenda that is detrimental to our nation; financially, socially, and culturally.

    She is a traitor, subverting our nations rule of law by offering illegal aliens our nations wealth under false and fraudulent pretenses. At taxpayer expense. She isn't our leader, she doesnt have any more rights than any other citizens of this nation. She represents the people. And we, are the people she works for, not a criminal breaking into our country to steal our nationadressed by s resources.

    The next time she cries "racist" or "discrimination", I'd suggest responding with the following statement;

    "I'm not racist, I'm a law abiding taxpaying citizen excersizing my constitutional rights to address your unwillingness to follow our nations laws at MY expense. You're hispanic, the illegals youre supporting are hispanic. They have no right to be here. Why would you abandon your responsibilities to the citizens of this nation to assist criminals entering our country? Your loyalty isnt to your country, your loyalty is to your race, You lie, you deceive, you exhibit the traits of a compulsive liar and your actions prove it. You are immoral and a disgrace to this country, a traitor to our nation and a threat to our national security."[/b]

    No anger, no emotion, I would simply state in a respectful manner those words if given the opportunity. Shake her hand, thanking her for her time, then leave.

    The preferential treatment she bestows on members of her own race has the potential to tarnish her image severely. Why its not being done escapes me.
     
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    http://americanaction.us/index.php/other-matters/evil-organizations/la-raza-unida/

    VJose Angel Gutierrez, ‘professor’ at the University of Texas at Arlington and founder of La Raza Unida: “The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in this land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years, and we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights! What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male! This is our homeland. We cannot, we will not, and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not im-mi-grants that came from another country to another country; we are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. [laughter] The explosion is in our population.”

    "It's a game, it's a game of power. Who controls it? You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We're in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control."
    Armando Navarro - Professor of Ethnic Studies, University of California, Riverside
    (speaker at UC Riverside Latino Summit, sspeaking in opposition of Prop 187
     

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    How does Mexico deal with Illegal Immigration

    Arizona Governor Jan Brewer has been receiving allot of flack the past few weeks about that state’s new legislation toughening up the laws dealing with illegal immigrants. Mexican president Pelipe Calderon has been hollering his fool head off about “racial discrimination” and has even went as far as saying that cities in Mexico are being over burdened by Mexican citizens moving back home from Arizona. Well DUH – they are your citizens so take care of them.

    In a Washington Times story by Jerry Seper this week it was revealed that Mexico has even more stringant laws in place than those that Arizona has enacted.

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/03/mexicos-illegals-lawstougher-than-arizonas/

    Under the Mexican law, illegal immigration is a felony, punishable by up to two years in prison. Immigrants who are deported and attempt to re-enter can be imprisoned for 10 years. Visa violators can be sentenced to six-year terms. Mexicans who help illegal immigrants are considered criminals.

    The law also says Mexico can deport foreigners who are deemed detrimental to "economic or national interests," violate Mexican law, are not "physically or mentally healthy" or lack the "necessary funds for their sustenance" and for their dependents.


    "This sounds like the kind of law that a rational nation would have to protect itself against illegal immigrants — that would stop and punish the very people who are violating the law," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa, ranking Republican on the House Judiciary subcommittee on immigration, citizenship, refugees, border security and international law.

    "Why would Mr. Calderon have any objections to an Arizona law that is less draconian than his own, one he has pledged to enforce?" Mr. King said.

    It has been estimated that there are around 450,000 illegals in Arizona alone and it is understandable that the state had to do something to bring this drain on their services to a halt. Montana has a little over 900,000 residents so that would be like looking around you and every other person you see being here illegally. Considering the skyrocketing crime and the drug gang violence border towns are experiencing we think Arizona is on the right track. The federal government has ignored their pleas for years and they were finally pushed into a corner where something had to be done. Seper went on to report that of the estimated one-million illegals that enter the United States each year over half of them come through Arizona. Why has our federal government been ignoring this problem which has been escalating for decades? Could it be that our representatives from both political parties are more concerned with their own reelection than they are in the economic welfare of our country?

    Now 16 Mexican Nationals are suing Arizona Rancher Roger Barnett who they claim violated their civil rights by holding them at gunpoint when he caught them trespassing on his land as they were illegally making their way into the United States through his private property. The immigrants are represented by the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/09/16-illegals-sue-arizonarancher/

    Where will this travesty end?
     

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    No offence birddog, but wouldn't be better to just give the website of the article and leave your own comments about it, rather than write out the article or portion of each article?
     

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    Interesting perspective, more so considering you've come to that conclusion using nothing more than open source intel. And you're right, it's happening and were sitting on our asses doing nothing to stop it.

    Anyone who dismisses the notion that our country could be attacked should ask themselves why and the hell our nation has spent trillions of dollars on defense; 10 carrier strike groups, military bases on every continent, subs with nukes dispersed around the world. One sub has enough firepower to obliterate europe and asia, and we have more than enough to destroy the entire planet. Money, resources, manpower, it took a significant amount of resources to create and sustain our military. World events and history have proven that defending our nation from threats is rational and necessary.

    Why attack when the same strategic goals can be accomplished with zero bloodshed. It's a simple matter of undermining the cultural fabric that holds this nation together, alienating the minority population and displacing/diluting white culture until its no longer relevant.

    It's not racist to want to live in a place of familiarity with folks you identify with. It's not racist to want to protect our nations culture and citizens from an invasion of illegal immigrants that are willing to break our laws to reap benefits that they're not entitled to. Dragging a child thousands of miles on a journey, no resources to provide for that child, would land a US citizen in prison. Yet they do it, then say they're being mistreated when they get here.

    I concur.


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    http://americanaction.us/index.php/other-matters/evil-organizations/la-raza-unida/

    VJose Angel Gutierrez, ‘professor’ at the University of Texas at Arlington and founder of La Raza Unida: “The border remains a military zone. We remain a hunted people. Now you think you have a destiny to fulfill in this land that historically has been ours for forty thousand years, and we're a new Mestizo nation. And they want us to discuss civil rights. Civil rights! What law made by white men to oppress all of us of color, female and male! This is our homeland. We cannot, we will not, and we must not be made illegal in our own homeland. We are not im-mi-grants that came from another country to another country; we are migrants, free to travel the length and breadth of the Americas because we belong here. We are millions. We just have to survive. We have an aging white America. They are not making babies. They are dying. It's a matter of time. [laughter] The explosion is in our population.”

    "It's a game, it's a game of power. Who controls it? You (to MEChA students) are like the generals that command armies. We're in a state of war. This Proposition 187 is a declaration of war against the Latino/Chicano community of this country. They know the demographics. They know that history and time is on our side. As one community, as one people, as one nation within a nation as the community that we are, the Chicano/Latino community of this nation. What this means is a transfer of power. It means control."
    Armando Navarro - Professor of Ethnic Studies, University of California, Riverside
    (speaker at UC Riverside Latino Summit, sspeaking in opposition of Prop 187

    A dangerous subversive.....


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    birddog

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    C,

    the content I posted is a tiny fraction of a PP presentation and whitepaper provided during a threat assessment briefing. The gist of it concerned the advanced capabilities of central/south american state/non-state actors to manipulate public opinion on a vast scale and influence elections, another section covered to on an unprecedented scale. I'm a technical/operational asset, and regularly play with new tools and toys at work to eval their usefullness. What's piqued my curiosity is what and the world led you to the conclusion that events were occuring as you described in your post.

    Your assessment was suprisingly thorough and correct. A significant number of people in this country are blind to it, most incredulous at the mere suggestion it occurs
     
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    Really? The left has become more and more radical and you think as they escalate, sure milkshakes today but who knows what tomorrow, that the right will just sit back and take it? And, if (when) the left takes control of the government and starts pushing socialism that wouldn't radicalize the right?
    Milkshakes with cement! That could be deadly assault. The left has been punishing Conservatives for 1st A. speech and thoughts they just imagine a guy/gal is thinking. First shots were fired years ago but Conservatives inaction is excused as being kind to dumb animals. Just remember: the Left hates guns. That gives us a huge advantage. With God and guns we can't loose.

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    Milkshakes with cement! That could be deadly assault. The left has been punishing Conservatives for 1st A. speech and thoughts they just imagine a guy/gal is thinking. First shots were fired years ago but Conservatives inaction is excused as being kind to dumb animals. Just remember: the Left hates guns. That gives us a huge advantage. With God and guns we can't loose.

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    There is no excuse for failing to act. Its nothing more than cowardice.

    AOC and immigration rights groups are predominantly Hispanic. When their actions aid and abette the breaking of our nations laws and their actions violate law and benefit Hispanics exclusively, their actions are by law defined as sedition. Discriminatory by its very nature, and a detriment to our race and culture.

    There are no legal nor civil protections that shield our politicians from their misdeeds.

    The dem rally cry of racists would soon be rendered mute if we faught fire with...….napalm. They attack, we escalate an attack and overwhelm their impassioned pleas to emotion by simply pointing out facts of significance.

    Call me racist or attack my brethren under the same misleading battlecry in an attempt to appeal to emotion and silence my voice, I will respond by dispersing a team of supporters incognito using miniature 500 or 1000 watt portable game calls playing loops of a prerecorded message.

    I'd use miniature projectors to display images, statements, and lists of AOC's lies and abandonment of her constitutional duty to act in the best interest of our nation and shed light of her ogoing preferential treatment of non citizen Hispanics to the detriment of our nations citizen.it's citizens.

    Her legacy and ongoing can no longer be ignored. I'm an American, fought and bled to protect this nation from harm, and I will no longer tolerate being treated as a second class citizen or ignored. its that goddamn simple

    AOC will lie and misstate or omits facts that don't align with her narrative or agenda.

    She is dishonest and lacks intellectual depth to act in the best interests of our nation.

    She has acted time and time again to further the interests of her own race to the detriment of this nations laws and the will of the people.

    She is unfit for office.
     
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    No offence birddog, but wouldn't be better to just give the website of the article and leave your own comments about it, rather than write out the article or portion of each article?

    No worries brother.

    In hindsite, thats actually a very good question .

    What criteria did you use to come to that conclusion? What did you see in my posts that lead you to beleive they could be improved?
     

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    So many editors....if you don't care for what someone posted.....don't continue reading it....move on.

    A quick paraphrase: I may not agree with what you're saying, but I'll defend your right to say it.
     

    candcallen

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    No worries brother.

    In hindsite, thats actually a very good question .

    What criteria did you use to come to that conclusion? What did you see in my posts that lead you to beleive they could be improved?
    Being the precise and succinct poster I am, in my expert opinion, you were a little short of adjectives adverbs and not descriptive enough for my tastes.

    You didnt ask me personally but since it's a public forum I thought I should chime in. Being awake 2 days kinda influences the decision making flow but I fought thru and posted anyways


    Sooo. Good preamble though! 3 thumbs up.







    Ya I can count, spell ok, part of my family is from Kentucky and the other Tennessee so the 3 thumbs are a family trait. On the bright side shoes are optional as we develop goodyearittis a few generations back and have thick soles.
     

    birddog

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    Being the precise and succinct poster I am, in my expert opinion, you were a little short of adjectives adverbs and not descriptive enough for my tastes.

    You didnt ask me personally but since it's a public forum I thought I should chime in. Being awake 2 days kinda influences the decision making flow but I fought thru and posted anyways
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    Sooo. Good preamble though! 3 thumbs up.

    I appreciate the compliment, but truth be known, I didnt write it. My bot did.

    I'd hoped to get a response from E. His comments provided an opportunity to expound on whathe perceived as a defect either in substance or form. He felt strongly enough about it to raise the question, albeit in an ambiguous manner, implying it was somehow flawed. Instead of clarifying his point of contention, he left it at that.

    There are times when what's left unsaid speaks volumes. I may not agree with someone, but an opposing point of view doesnt diminish nor invalidate the value of an opposing point of view when the process of debate enlightens everyone involved.
     

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    No offence birddog, but wouldn't be better to just give the website of the article and leave your own comments about it, rather than write out the article or portion of each article?

    fk it :)

    A hispanic member of the House of Representatives. Dishonest, blatantly lies when she wants to for various reasons, violates state, federal and ethics laws to protect illegal aliens from the consequences of breaking the law. Talks shit and attacks the integrity of anyone who disagrees with her or points out her lies. And demands illegal aliens be given rights that every other nation on planet Earth would consider treasonous.

    That, is some seriously fkd up shit. And funny as hell once you get past the stage of disbelief. I mean, taken at face value, its so far out in left field it couldnt possibly be real. THe only nation that would consider such absurdity would be a nation where the surreal is the norm. Clowns, circus performers, freak show performers, and an extremely potent supply of the best LSDI money can buy, yeppers, they could pull it off. And was able to pull it off cause his hydro kush was better than cloned straing gro at Clinton pulled it off cause he's a baller and prefers compliant, unconscience women that wome head shame over hiss supposedly premi weinie. and never gave a fk.

    considered every plausible, rational explanation and circular reasoning led me back to the same place. And every single person sitting in that room (except the suits) saw the absurdity and humor of it all once they'd chewed on it for a while.

    when that was unbeleivable. Excluding every questionable or plausible explanation that was beyond reproach, you could chew on that data for an eternity and it would lead to the same conclusions. Unless devils, angels and superheroes are real and an element of this issue, the only rational explanation is that our country has lost its fkn mind.

    The hard part was the potentially disastrous consequences of one simple fact; were fkd if we don't voice our concerns and fight for our rights
     
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    candcallen

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    I was just tossing a crotchety arshole-ish back hander at an arrogant presumptuousness I observed.

    Like I said before, it's a lonely road having such a well defined and keen sense of humor. 20 years after I'm dead it will click and people all over the world will spontaneously start laughing and say "so that's what that crotchety bastard meant".
     

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    Better in that people are more likely to read a post that has simple opinions to an article, and possibly read that article to see how you came to a conclusion.
     
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