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  • Axxe55

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    Henry brought out a lever-action 410 a few years ago.


    That G-Force 410 does have a much more attractive price though.
     

    zackmars

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    Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.

    If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
     

    Sam7sf

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    GForce especially. My fil worked on one and tried to order parts but they were not available and the importer orders extra guns just to use for parts. The smith with the importer even said they are pos’s.
     

    zackmars

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    GForce especially. My fil worked on one and tried to order parts but they were not available and the importer orders extra guns just to use for parts. The smith with the importer even said they are pos’s.
    I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotguns


    Gforce, black aces, vzeir, citadel, Tr imports, Garaysar, tokarev, etc etc.
     

    Sam7sf

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    I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotguns


    Gforce, black aces, vzeir, citadel, Tr imports, Garaysar, tokarev, etc etc.
    Tisas can be ok. I had a PX9 that I traded to a member here that was an alright gun. But many others I avoid like my wife telling me: “I have an idea”.
     

    Glenn B

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    Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.

    If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
    I bought a .410 bore Yildiz single shot shotgun, a Turkish import, from Academy last year (they are the sole importer or were when I bought it - Yildiz is an Academy brand name as I understand) or the year before when the .410 nostalgia bug bit me. The only thing I can think of maybe not to like about it was the thin foregrip. Otherwise, it was fine, nothing wrong with it at all as far as I could tell. Shot it a bunch and then wound up selling it when I realized I had zero practical need for a .410 and a 16 gauge better suited me for anything on which I might have used a .410.
     

    Glenn B

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    I'm convinced that someone has figured out how to use those ai programs that made all those creepy bootleg children's youtube videos from a few years back to make and import shotguns


    Gforce, black aces, vzeir, citadel, Tr imports, Garaysar, tokarev, etc etc.
    Is the Tokarev name being used for Turkish import shotguns nowadays? Wow, what a downfall from Soviet (and other combloc) made pistols and rifles. If that is correct, Fedor must be writhing around in his grave.
     

    zackmars

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    Is the Tokarev name being used for Turkish import shotguns nowadays? Wow, what a downfall from Soviet (and other combloc) made pistols and rifles. If that is correct, Fedor must be writhing around in his grave.
    Yup. Kinda got my hopes up for a second, then crushed them
     

    zackmars

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    anybody know anything about Panzer Arms shotguns?
    Yes. Not worth it. Cheesy bullpup shotguns, or 'AR' shotguns that only vaguely look like an AR if you saw one out the corner of your eye 15 years ago


    Cheaply made and designed. Horrifically long lengths of pull.
     

    zackmars

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    I bought a .410 bore Yildiz single shot shotgun, a Turkish import, from Academy last year (they are the sole importer or were when I bought it - Yildiz is an Academy brand name as I understand) or the year before when the .410 nostalgia bug bit me. The only thing I can think of maybe not to like about it was the thin foregrip. Otherwise, it was fine, nothing wrong with it at all as far as I could tell. Shot it a bunch and then wound up selling it when I realized I had zero practical need for a .410 and a 16 gauge better suited me for anything on which I might have used a .410.
    I've seen a few of the Yildiz guns, one (a 12 gauge) iirc, had ejectors, and after half a game of skeet, locked the gun up tight as it was opened. The rest were fine from what i saw.

    When it worked, it flung shells like it was mad at them
     

    Mills

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    Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.

    If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
    CZ shotguns are made in Czech Republic
     

    cycleguy2300

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    Because they are garbage. No name shotguns designed to be as cheap as possible, imported by a no name import company that will not be able to help you with any problems you will have, and probably won't exist in a few years. I have seen a lot of "them", and they are not nice. Poor machining, poor quality furniture, rough actions, bad headspacing, very poor durability.

    If you absolutely just *have* to buy a turkish shotgun, buy a CZ or something, so at least they will make some effort to fix it.
    My black aces semiautomatic shotgun has been flawless for me...

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