I prefer a carry vest for most situations, yes they are EXPENSIVE! but unzipped the vest allows access while wearing a seat belt and while laying down or in other awkward positions. I am a huge advocate of never ever pointing the muzzle at my body, and yes my left arm does cross the muzzle path often... I also think each person will decide on a viable option themselves and if they train and practice then that choice is good for them. Training by several "professionals" is also money well spent. I enjoy reading posts here, lot's of experience and knowledge presented by you folks!
I don't like the idea of appenix carry with a non-hammer firearm?
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Oh shit now I saw it - ouch. So something went wrong there obviously
Too many people want to be fast INTO the holster, and set themselves up for accidents. More people shoot themselves holstering a hip carried firearm than appendix carry - holstering a gun is inherently dangerous regardless of carry method. There are true accidents, and then there's simple negligence.
I'd rather be fast OUT of the holster, do whatever work needs doing, and then take a split second to visually assess the holster's position and condition (make sure it hasn't shifted, and make sure nothing is obstructing it) and guide the gun into place.
If you're not a cop or security professional who may have to de-escalate from pointing guns to going hands-on, there's almost zero chance you won't have that second to make sure you are holstering up safely. If the threat is still present, the gun should still be out. If the threat is over, you can take an extra second to holster up. If the threat didn't call for going to guns in the first place, and you drew your gun, you done fucked up well before having the chance to unintentionally shoot yourself.
Once the gun is in the holster, the likelihood of you shooting your jimmy off, or blowing a gaping hole thru your femoral artery is next to zero. Use a quality holster and a quality firearm. Soft holsters shouldn't be used for inside the waist carry, ever, regardless of position. They probably shouldn't be used in any capacity because a soft sided holster won't prevent the trigger from being depressed.
I'd rather not shoot any part of my anatomy, be it my leg, my butt cheek, my bits & pieces, or my chest (no Nutnfancy style chest carry for me, thank you!) - so I'll take the time to check my holster instead of trying to be the fastest at holstering.
I'd rather be fast OUT of the holster, do whatever work needs doing, and then take a split second to visually assess the holster's position and condition (make sure it hasn't shifted, and make sure nothing is obstructing it) and guide the gun into place.
If you're not a cop or security professional who may have to de-escalate from pointing guns to going hands-on, there's almost zero chance you won't have that second to make sure you are holstering up safely. If the threat is still present, the gun should still be out. If the threat is over, you can take an extra second to holster up. If the threat didn't call for going to guns in the first place, and you drew your gun, you done fucked up well before having the chance to unintentionally shoot yourself.
Once the gun is in the holster, the likelihood of you shooting your jimmy off, or blowing a gaping hole thru your femoral artery is next to zero. Use a quality holster and a quality firearm. Soft holsters shouldn't be used for inside the waist carry, ever, regardless of position. They probably shouldn't be used in any capacity because a soft sided holster won't prevent the trigger from being depressed.
I'd rather not shoot any part of my anatomy, be it my leg, my butt cheek, my bits & pieces, or my chest (no Nutnfancy style chest carry for me, thank you!) - so I'll take the time to check my holster instead of trying to be the fastest at holstering.
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Smart. I recall in CC training the instructor stressed that most accidental discharges happen when people are jacked up from a situation and try to quickly shove it back in the holster.
FireInTheWire
Caprock Crusader
My pistol moves around my waist depending on whats going on and what I'm doing. I carry a lot at 2 and 4-5. Just carry whats comfy...
I mostly carry Kimber 1911 or Micro 9 I have carried 1911 pistols for 50 years so very comfortable with them.... both are safety on until presented and safety on prior to withdrawing-- I am concerned about my SIG 320 VTAC with no safety and a murky history of accidental discharge. Absolutely love the firearm, but will be a range lady until I can regain confidence in it. Anyone have personal knowledge of SIG 320 problems?
You might be able to install the thumb safety that Sig has offered on some models, essentially giving you 1911 level of safety. It was originally an option on the M17/M18 models, but they've now released thumb safety equipped guns in other flavors too, and the P365 has a safety equipped option. You might drop Sig a line and see if you can convert yours to use the safety switch?
I'm an M&P fan personally, and I like the safety equipped models because they give me a great thumb shelf. When I carry one with a safety, its in a holster that is molded to help move the safety into the "ON" position as the gun is being holstered, should I forget to activate it. It also makes it difficult for the safety lever to be deactivated while in the holster. The M&P line up is very easy to convert from safety equipped to non-safety equipped and vice-versa.
I concur. Puts the muzzle too close to the femoral artery for my comfort. Too much could go wrong. It's not just drawing and holstering that I worry about but getting into a struggle for the gun while it is pointed things that will bleed you out in short order. I finally convinced my son to not carry Appendix. I'll stick with 4 o'clock carry with a 20 degree cant.
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Mike_from_Texas
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I would be interested to know why the OP is concerned carrying appendix on a weapon with no safety lever.
That said I do not prefer appendix carry at all mainly because it’s just uncomfortable for me.
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That said I do not prefer appendix carry at all mainly because it’s just uncomfortable for me.
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BABBALOU1956
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Carrying cocked & unlocked always made me a little nervous but I'm too forgetful to even think about having a safety on my carry guns. They're all DAO. I do like the grip safety on some Springfields. If I'll be standing I appendix carry & if I'll be sitting I pocket carry. I've got 2 LCR in 38 & 2 LCRX in 38. Also a micro SIG P290RS in 9mm & Beretta Pico 380. Anything bigger digs into my thigh or belly.
No appendix carry for me. Used to be my excuse was my gut was too big. Now much of that is gone so the excuse now is that I don't want a 185 grn 45acp round in a Condition One 1911 pointing directly at my junk. Intrinsically safe or not - I'll stick with my strong side OWB.
A very painful reminder of the dangers associated with re-holstering AIWB. More than likely he had some of his shirt go in with the trigger guard. A quality holster and a slow, deliberate re-holster should greatly mitigate this risk.
+1 on Tier 1. They are the holsters I have settled on a couple of years back for appendix carry. Their optional wedges make a world of difference in concealability - keeping the grip close to the body - and comfortability. They are great people to deal with as well.
Lonesome Dove
A man of vision but with no mission.
I wouldn't carry a Glock in my trailer much less a holster.
I resemble that. . . . . . . . . about .357 vs) .45ACP 1911's. The GLOCK 21 is even more pleasant to shoot than a 1911.
leVieux
