HEB no open carry

[plasman]

I love my HEB but I can't support them!

http://www.ksat.com/news/heb-no-open-carry-in-its-stores

 

[Mreed911]

Already a thread on this. Search is your friend (though, to be fair, not one in each city's local section).

http://www.texasguntalk.com/forums/texas-concealed-handgun-chl/71410-heb-30-07-a.html

 

[Renegade]

1st I have heard of this!

 

[Savage20]

Me too!

 

[AKmik]

Love HEB also.

So No open carry, as long as CC w permit is a non issue Im still a customer.

 

[Southpaw]

1st I have heard of this!

Me too!

Did some one inform OCT about this????? Where is Whorey Watkins when you need him????

 

[txinvestigator]

OMG!

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

I'll say it one more time: HEB isn't anti-gun, (they're pro-grocery selling) or they'd post a 30.06 sign.

They haven't.

Do I think posting a 30.07 sign is a flawed idea?

Yes, but I'm as adult who accepts what he can't (at least at this stage of the game) change.

They made a business decision for what they consider best. This is legally allowed and they can't be forced to OC no matter how hard you hard core OCers stamp your feet in protest.

OC zealots can shop elsewhere or CC.

Whining, pissing and moaning, blathering about your natural/god given OC rights, blah, blah, blah, and acting out isn't going to change their (HEB's) decision.

So, outraged OCers, get over it.

It's done deal.

 

[Mreed911]

I'll say it one more time: HEB isn't anti-gun, (they're pro-grocery selling) or they'd post a 30.06 sign.

They haven't.

Do I think posting a 30.07 sign is a flawed idea?

Yes, but I'm as adult who accepts what he can't (at least at this stage of the game) change.

They made a business decision for what they consider best. This is legally allowed and they can't be forced to OC no matter how hard you hard core OCers stamp your feet in protest.

OC zealots can shop elsewhere or CC.

Whining, pissing and moaning, blathering about your natural/god given OC rights, blah, blah, blah, and acting out isn't going to change their (HEB's) decision.

So, outraged OCers, get over it.

It's done deal.

Too bad you don't know how business works. You'd be surprised how little it really takes for things to change.

 

[Mowingmaniac 24/7]

Mreed911,

I hope you're right.

I'd love to see both 30.06/30.07 signs be gone.

However, the number of folks who are upset (sadly) are statistically insignificant.

So far not one of the 30.06 signs I've come across have reverted and I don't expect the 30.07 signs to revert either.

I hope I'm wrong.

I appreciate many have a "we'll patiently watch and wait for the signs to go away once business realizes OC will not negatively affect their bottom line".

Please don't hold your breath for this to happen.

OCT and organizations like them can be thanked for the 30.07 signs and businesses have long memories.

 

[Mreed911]

Mreed911,OCT and organizations like them can be thanked for the 30.07 signs and businesses have long memories.

On this we agree.

What has to happen, literally, is nothing - no incidents, no OC fiascos, etc. When "nothing" happens, then folks like TSRA, etc. can start campaigns around the "purchasing power" of LTC'ers, their households, etc. In the end, it'll only change a few minds, but for a business with margins less than 5%, every percentage point counts - especially when it's not discretionary spend, meaning it has to be spent somewhere (like their competitors).

OC should also have the effect of driving more people to GET an LTC. Those numbers (and percentages) are steadily climbing.

 

[Savage20]

I hope I'm wrong.

You usually are.


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[majormadmax]

You usually are.

Bwahahahahaha! Schwack!

Truth be told, HEB is anti-gun clearly evident by the fact that they are putting up 30.0 signs! What other reason would they be doing it? Since OC hasn't gone into effect yet, what "customers" have convinced them it was needed?

While OCT and other assclown outfits could be blamed, as far as I can tell they haven't done one of their "long gun show of force" at an HEB (just Starbucks as far as I can recall), so how did this happen?

Well, that's a rhetorical question as I know damn well how it happened, HEB made the decision; therefore they are anti-gun!

That decision could have been influenced by rhetoric from other dipshits like Moms Demand Action, but if that small demographic could convince the Texas grocery empire of HEB to make such a decision than why couldn't the nearly million CHT/LTC holders convince them it's wrong? I will tell you why, because HEB is anti-gun!

So, with all that said, how many people aren't going to shop at their beloved HEB because of this policy? A few, but not the majority that I can see. Most will simply give in because they are too addicted to their Blue Bell ice cream.

Me? I don't care, as I get to shop someplace that has better products and is cheaper. That's just one of the perks of being a retired vet; but trust me, it was earned.

And God forbid Whataburger posts 30.07 signs! People will lose their ever-loving minds if that happens!!!

 

[Mreed911]

And God forbid Whataburger posts 30.07 signs! People will lose their ever-loving minds if that happens!!!

Not as long as Five Guys and In-n-Out are around.

 

[satx78247]

majormadmax,

As for me & my house we will shop at the FSH Commissary & avoid HEB, even though it's closer to my house. = IF every CHL licensee would shop elsewhere for groceries & send a polite letter to HEB HQ telling the HEB management why, the policy will change & SOON.

yours, satx

 

[majormadmax]

Not as long as Five Guys and In-n-Out are around.

Ugh. Five Guys are grease bombs, and In-n-Out is waaaaaaaaay overrated.

I'll take Burger-Fi over either of them.

 

[Savage20]

I prefer Smash Burger, but you can't go wrong with the Fuddruckers fries+cheese! Their burgers are good too.

Can't beat Whataburger for the late night burger craving though

 

[majormadmax]

majormadmax,

As for me & my house we will shop at the FSH Commissary & avoid HEB, even though it's closer to my house. = IF every CHL licensee would shop elsewhere for groceries & send a polite letter to HEB HQ telling the HEB management why, the policy will change & SOON.

yours, satx

Ironically, you can't carry in the commissary either (Federal law); but if what I have recently heard is correct, Joint Base San Antonio plans to follow Dyess' lead and will allow people to bring personal firearms on base as long as they (the firearms) remain in their vehicles. Hopefully that will occur some time this coming Spring...

 

[Mreed911]

As for me & my house we will shop at the FSH Commissary & avoid HEB, even though it's closer to my house. = IF every CHL licensee would shop elsewhere for groceries & send a polite letter to HEB HQ telling the HEB management why, the policy will change & SOON.

I've got a Wal-Mart near me for most things. Specialty seafood and meats I can get around town if I need them. Otherwise, there's a small mexican grocery/meat market not too far away and a Fiesta for anything else I might be missing.

I haven't looked to see if Trader Joe's is posted. I'm betting yes, or they will be soon.

Scary when Wal-Mart is more supportive of people's rights (less restrictive?).

 

[majormadmax]

Oddly enough, the one time I set foot in a Trader Joe's here in Texas, there wasn't a 30.06 sign.

But like you, I am betting they will have a 30.07 sign posted before Friday...