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  • DougC

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    For the Glockophiles and their better half Glock is coming out with a new pistol, G47 after the Shot Show Jan 2023. James from TFTB TV YouTube channel has the details on this one to four pistols.
    Also at end of his review is mention of the Holosun SCS green dot sight suitable for G47. For those wanting to reduce their carbon footprint :roflfunny: :clown:the sight is solar powered. Which may not be a bad thing considering what steps I went through recently to replace the battery and thread lock the screws on a Glock 43X MOS.
     

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    vmax

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    Some optics have the battery access under the sight..thats just a terrible design feature IMO
    thats one of the big reasons I went with. Venom on my G19
     

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    The 47 will replace the Glock 17. I was told this by a rep from the Primary Arms government division. We'll see if it happens.

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    Glock is KING!

    All you jealous gun folk know this is right, just because you harbor pro-HI POINT love is no excuse...cretins.

    Glock is KING!
     

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    Wow.....Glock built a Glock that takes Glock parts and Glock mags.....

    ....kings of innovation, those guys.
    Kinda of good idea when selling to government LEOs. Keeps the cost down, doing gunsmith work, transition from one caliber to another etc. Glock has a very large market share of police department maybe 50-60%.
     

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    That place east of Waco....
    Kinda of good idea when selling to government LEOs. Keeps the cost down, doing gunsmith work, transition from one caliber to another etc. Glock has a very large market share of police department maybe 50-60%.

    If Glock sold them to non-LEOs at the same prices they sell them to LEOs, they might be worth the value....

    .....heck, even Moonpie might buy one!
     

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    They do sell them closer to the Blue Label price that LEOs to civilians. If you are a member ($30 annually) of their Sport Foundation (which let's you shoot in the Glock matches around the country) you get the discount from certain FFLs. In Dallas that's GT Distributors with another location near Austin. Price is between what LEOs get and general public.

    I got a free Sport Foundation membership for two years by being a volunteer at Glock match. Another perk by being a member is one can go to their armorer class as a civilian. I did this year and learned a lot and can fix/add on stuff.
     
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    The 47 will replace the Glock 17. I was told this by a rep from the Primary Arms government division. We'll see if it happens.

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    This actually makes perfect sense - the primary reason is it will simplify manufacturing across the board. Given that the full frame guns - 17 / 22 / 31 use a different locking block than the compact and subcompact guns that means they have to run two different parts for the locking blocks, and the barrels have to be cut different. IF they have the balls to completely axe the legacy models and thus drop factory support for the barrels and locking blocks they can completely revamp the lineup and save money by no longer having to maintain seperate stocks and production lines.

    It also means that they can utilize the same frames going forward for all full frame guns other than the 45 and 10mm lines. This means the 19X / G45 / G47 / G34 (or whatever model designator gives you the long slide on the 45 frame) - AND it means that all barrels can be cut with this locking block design.

    Then they can bill modularity as a feature - like Sig's P320 and the Walther PDP do. Walther especially is pushing that idea with the PDP.

    Glock can then do like Sig and sell uppers and lowers seperately and open more market share. Only took them a decade to play catch up with that model.

    It does give people the upshot of factory mix master Glock 19L's though - slapping the long slide on the compact frame or even subcompact frame for a 26L (or maybe XL?)

    So if you have a 19, and a 47 you could indeed swap and have 4 combos - long slide 19, a 19X, and the stock 19 and 47 of course.

    This also means that agencies that may want a shorter grip / longer slide option can order those too and Glock won't have to go out of their way, aside from maybe engraving yet another model number or adding an L on after the fact.

    Glock just needs to drop legacy versions. They could also make big points with the pro-dot folks if they would alter the MOS guns - cut the slides natively for RMR footprint and use plates to adapt to other sights. Then you get lower mount RMR sights and we move toward industry standardization for footprints and *maybe* ditching plates at that point.

    I won't hold my breath on that though.
     

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    This actually makes perfect sense - the primary reason is it will simplify manufacturing across the board. Given that the full frame guns - 17 / 22 / 31 use a different locking block than the compact and subcompact guns that means they have to run two different parts for the locking blocks, and the barrels have to be cut different. IF they have the balls to completely axe the legacy models and thus drop factory support for the barrels and locking blocks they can completely revamp the lineup and save money by no longer having to maintain seperate stocks and production lines.

    It also means that they can utilize the same frames going forward for all full frame guns other than the 45 and 10mm lines. This means the 19X / G45 / G47 / G34 (or whatever model designator gives you the long slide on the 45 frame) - AND it means that all barrels can be cut with this locking block design.

    Then they can bill modularity as a feature - like Sig's P320 and the Walther PDP do. Walther especially is pushing that idea with the PDP.

    Glock can then do like Sig and sell uppers and lowers seperately and open more market share. Only took them a decade to play catch up with that model.

    It does give people the upshot of factory mix master Glock 19L's though - slapping the long slide on the compact frame or even subcompact frame for a 26L (or maybe XL?)

    So if you have a 19, and a 47 you could indeed swap and have 4 combos - long slide 19, a 19X, and the stock 19 and 47 of course.

    This also means that agencies that may want a shorter grip / longer slide option can order those too and Glock won't have to go out of their way, aside from maybe engraving yet another model number or adding an L on after the fact.

    Glock just needs to drop legacy versions. They could also make big points with the pro-dot folks if they would alter the MOS guns - cut the slides natively for RMR footprint and use plates to adapt to other sights. Then you get lower mount RMR sights and we move toward industry standardization for footprints and *maybe* ditching plates at that point.

    I won't hold my breath on that though.
    That's quite the reply. I will keep it in mind and watch what happens in the market place. Some have noted on the internet that Glock has lost market share in recent years and this could be a direction for them to maintain or better yet improve.
     

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    That's quite the reply. I will keep it in mind and watch what happens in the market place. Some have noted on the internet that Glock has lost market share in recent years and this could be a direction for them to maintain or better yet improve.

    Glock has rested on their success of the 1990's and early 2000's in capturing an almost monopolistic amount of market share in US and world law enforcement, as well as huge sales to civilian populations where civilians can have pistols.

    They have been either completely resistant to listening to customer demands, or so slow to respond to them that they set the stage for other companies to come in an eat their lunch and half their dinner.

    Sig used to be a big player in police and military sales in the 1980's and 1990's - then Glock swept in and all of a sudden - double action metal frame auto loaders were gone. Light weight plastic high cap striker guns were in.

    When the 1994 AWB hit - people literally begged Glock for a thin 10 round version of the G19, or even a subcompact gun of less than 10 rounds to meet the demand for a carry gun. They refused.

    Cue the 20-teens - Sig Sauer has tried and found limited success with their first striker fired polymer gun, but learned some lessons and took some of the better features - the chassis system namely - and refined the design and came out with the P320 - which, despite all its flaws - has found its way into a huge portion of civilian holsters, civilian law enforcement holsters, and in a couple versions has found itself being the current issue sidearm for military personnel in every branch of the US military.

    Besides that - Smith & Wesson refined the M&P design - first released in the early 2000's - which built off of their Sigma, which was the Smith & Wesson Glock clone. The M&P has proven itself to be a reliable, ergonomic pistol despite early hiccups. Smith has gained some huge LE contracts with it, including, IIRC, the LAPD, Austin PD, Oregon State Police, and IIRC Cinncinati PD.

    Then you have Walther - quietly innovating and pushing more in competition and civilian sectors - but now making a big push in the duty-gun market with their PDP pistols.

    All of these guns feature better ergonomics, modularity, and other features from the factory that for a long time were only found in aftermarket guns. THey listen, they adapt.

    Sig gave us the P365 series, among other micro guns - hell, even Taurus G2 / G3 series guns were almost as small as a 365 - coming in size-wise between a 365 and a Glock 26, and offered up 12 rounds in the mag vs 10 for a Glock 26.

    Glock then offered up a 380 - when no one asked for a 380 - and took years to give people a micro size 9mm, long after the federal AWB expired. Took a few years after that to give the people a 10 round slim Glock 19 size gun (the G43X and G48)

    Sig responds with the P365 XL and X-Macro - both smaller than a Glock 19 but packing the same firepower or better.

    Glock needs to innovate and recapture the hearts & minds of buyers if they want to once again have near monopolistic market share. Their announcement of a Glock made AR15 type rifle (yeah, for a gov't contract for now) is one way to do it. If they get the bugs worked out - look for a Glock rifle on the US market by 2025 if not sooner.

    They need to have more than just "its a Glock" to sell a new generation of gun buyers not impressed with the hype.
     

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    Thanks for market insight. It makes a lot sense. Competition in the market place brings out new and worthwhile improvements in product and service.
     

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    Lucas (from T-Rex Arms channel) shoots the Glock 47 to see if it offers something new or different from its predecessors. He asked viewers good question; By what standards do you trust a brand...or a pistol?

    SPOILER ALERT: if you stick till end of video Lucas says the new pistol is; drum roll please :drummer: IT IS ANOTHER GLOCK

     
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