If it has to do with COVID, it goes HERE!'

[msharley]

 

[Cob]

Most viruses be come less virulent as a they mutate if you believe the powers that be the Covid becomes more virulent

 

[Grumps21]

I think the elephant in the room will be does "natural" immunity protect against variants? Flu mutates all the time and the old ways of making vaccines means that the vaccine is a guess at what will be here whereas the mRNA technique can churn out a new variant almost on the fly. I have doubts that natural immunity or present vaccine immunity will keep up with mutations therefore the choices will probably be that "natural" immunity patients will probably catch the disease again and may face the risk of death again and vaccinated patients will need boosters with new variants added. All is just theoretical of course. I have had flu multiple times. I expect people may have Covid multiple times. Just my opinion.

Well, how many variants does the vax treat? Last I heard we are still treating for the COVID that came out in 2019. Any vax developed for other variants would be a new vax, and subject to the approvals all over again. Am I wrong?

 

[1911'S 4 Me]

Grumps, you are getting too technical for these shade tree scientist.

 

[rotor]

Well, how many variants does the vax treat? Last I heard we are still treating for the COVID that came out in 2019. Any vax developed for other variants would be a new vax, and subject to the approvals all over again. Am I wrong?

I don’t think you are wrong. I just think that the science of mRNA vaccine creation allows changes to the vaccine much faster than the older grow in eggs vaccines. My issue is whether natural immunity will give protection against the next Covid strain. The vaccine is easy to manipulate for new strains. That’s the advantage of mRNA science. FDA approval is always a different story.

 

[jrbfishn]

Natural immunity provides multiple-times the resistance to delta variant than the vax

Dr. Makary Says Natural Immunity Is More Effective Then Vaccine Immunity

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My question related to future mutations.

When all we had was just plain old everyday Covid, the one the vaccine was designed for, Delta was the "future vaiant".

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[pronstar]

Studies already show natural immunity provides better protection against all known variants (delta is not the only variant).

I’ll trust my own immunity for this one

Natural SARS-CoV-2 infection induces more durable immunity than vaccination study suggests

Scientists from the USA have demonstrated that immunity induced by mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines in previously SARS-CoV-2-infected people has the highest robustness and durability with cross-reactivity against different viral variants.

www.news-medical.net

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[oldag]

My question related to future mutations.

Ummm, not too long ago delta was a future mutation.

 

[pronstar]

IT’S OFFICIAL – Official data shows 8 times as many people have died due to the Covid Vaccines in 6 months than people who have died of Covid-19 in 18 months

We can officially confirm that the number of people to have died due to the Covid vaccines has surpassed the number of people who have died of Covid-19, and we believe the data was released by acci…

theexpose.uk

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[Cob]

Latest mutation is mu

 

[Cob]

Thank you for posting that couldn’t remember the web site

 

[rotor]

IT’S OFFICIAL – Official data shows 8 times as many people have died due to the Covid Vaccines in 6 months than people who have died of Covid-19 in 18 months

We can officially confirm that the number of people to have died due to the Covid vaccines has surpassed the number of people who have died of Covid-19, and we believe the data was released by acci…

theexpose.uk

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Are you sending them money?

 

[JCC]

looking forward to this

 

[ZX9RCAM]

On my birthday....

 

[Grumps21]

draw your own conclusions

 

[leVieux]

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As with any significant decision, the alternatives and risks must be considered carefully. But in order to make a proper decision, one must try to use the most accurate information available.

The best information is rarely found in random internet posts. Many offer "expert" recommendations from pure QUACKS. And this time we see complications from political LIES.

If you wish to learn how to spot those QUACKS, PM me with your e-address or f-b contact. Simply, "GOOGLE" the "expert" and look for major university appointments in their first few references. Remember that QUACKS can be very clever and carefully conceal their true reputations.

As to the acceptable risks from any vaccine, compare the REAL "statistics" from the published data. That data should ONLY be from recognized refereed scientific journals.

Our traditional vaccines, taken together, have actual major adverse effects in the range of 1 or 2 per million vaccinated persons. This is seen by ALL real experts as "acceptable" because any known alternative courses have proven much, much more dangerous to the individual, and to society.

Remember that we all have some poorly-defined "right" to not be infected by others, if avoidable.

Once more, the raw numbers of reported post-vaccine deaths with COVID seem large for two easily explainable reasons: 1) They do not account for casual relations; NO cause-effect relationship has been established. IOW, if one takes a sample of hundreds of millions individuals and just observes them, with zero intervention, there will be many deaths from natural but unexplained causes. And, 2) The "samples" or "numbers of individuals at risk" are much, much greater than in any previous example in history.

I have discussed this with several REAL experts, and all say to take the vaccines, if over 25 or 30 years old. Indeed, all have TAKEN them, and given them to all adults in their immediate families.

I hope this answers serious questions. Sadly, had we not been repeatedly LIED-TO by our current government, this discussion wouldn't even be necessary. "Politics" should never enter Public Health / Disease Control, as we are all equally vulnerable.

leVieux
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[Axxe55]

 

[Cob]

THIS IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL NOT YOUR HEALTH AND WELL BEING

 

[Axxe55]

THIS IS ALL ABOUT CONTROL NOT YOUR HEALTH AND WELL BEING

Yep. Add in that most any doctor IMO pushing the vaccine, or the misleading data that is perpetrated as the "truth" behind Covid. one can surmise that most all the "experts" and "doctors" are acting in accordance to a political agenda, and therefor should not be trusted.

Common sense says you vaccinate people against a high mortality rate, not an extremely low one. I guess that escaped their attention.

 

[Cob]

This sounds crazy but the vaccine passports is not just here it’s world wide people are protesting them world wide. I have read that In Israel people are on there third booster.Third booster for a vaccine after less than a year wtf is going on.