Democrats Threaten Virginia LEO with National Guard

[oldag]

“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they’re prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures.

Perhaps the Rep. should resign since he is not upholding the US Constitution.

 

[jrbfishn]

“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they’re prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures.

Perhaps the Rep. should resign since he is not upholding the US Constitution.

That was my first thought.

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[smittyb]

So your claim only applies to
door to door confiscation? Lol

and yes those officers are under orders and are disobeying them

No, I sure didn’t say that it only applied to door-to-door confiscation.
I did imply you are making an apples to oranges comparison.
So which police departments are ordering their officers to go out and find 30 round mags for sale and confiscate them and/or prosecute the owners.

 

[Renegade]

So which police departments are ordering their officers to go out and find 30 round mags for sale and confiscate them and/or prosecute the owners.

just about every department in CA, NJ, NY, MA, etc.

 

[smittyb]

Really? I was not aware. Are you sure that’s not a bit of hyperbole.

 

[Renegade]

Really? I was not aware. Are you sure that’s not a bit of hyperbole.

well now you are. 30 round mags are illegal in those states, and it is vigorously enforced. Thought it was common knowledge since it is easily googled.

 

[smittyb]

It’s vigorously enforced, and yet they are openly displayed for sale in shops?
Sounds a bit contradictory...

 

[Renegade]

It’s vigorously enforced, and yet they are openly displayed for sale in shops?
Sounds a bit contradictory...

I think you are confused.

 

[smittyb]

I think you are confused.

Really?
Vigorous enforcement must have a different meaning in your part of the state.

 

[EZ-E]

“I would hope they either resign in good conscience, because they cannot uphold the law which they are sworn to uphold, or they’re prosecuted for failure to fulfill their oath,” Democratic Virginia Rep. Gerry Connolly told the Washington Examiner of local county police who may refuse to enforce future gun control measures.

Perhaps the Rep. should resign since he is not upholding the US Constitution.

I have said this many times for politicians that are against the 2nd.
They talk a good game about how patroitic they are for the country but want to shit on the one right that guarantees all rights.

An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man is a subject.

 

[toddnjoyce]

...But if I am not mistaken, don't the NG also swear to uphold and defend the Constitution?
Not the legislators or the govenor?

It’s almost identical. I’ve sworn more than a few Guardsmen into service. The change is in bold below.

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

 

[avvidclif]

Let's see, National Guard, weekend warriors. I could see a massive epidemic of flu in Va.

 

[EZ-E]

So does Trump trump the Governor since the POTUS is above governor with NG chain of command?
Maybe State rights take over?
Or do the citizens say come & take it

Should be a interesting history lesson for all of us. My standard cap mags are waiting with my popcorn.

 

[jrbfishn]

It’s almost identical. I’ve sworn more than a few Guardsmen into service. The change is in bold below.

I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and the State of (STATE NAME) against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of (STATE NAME) and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God.

Key point,
The Constitution and The State come first.
The orders of part are LAWFUL orders.

It is not insubordination or disobeying orders if the orders are unlawful orders or are clearly unconstitutional in nature.

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[candcallen]

Nope. The Gov is El Hefe Grande as long as the guard isnt federalized. See hurricane Katrina and the bullshit that caused because the governor didnt want to let go of that. Also Federalized guard troops can not participate in any law enforcement duties while state guard soldiers can.

 

[Renegade]

Maybe Governor Blackface can call up his friends in the Ku Klux Klan if the NG will not cooperate

 

[Kar98]

Let's see, National Guard, weekend warriors. ...

That's not nice.

https://www.military.com/national-guard-birthday/national-guard-service-in-the-war-on-terror.html

 

[Hoji]

Cops in Colorado are doing it every day by not enforcing the mag ban. 30 round mags are openly for sale in shops.

Cops every day who are ordered not to turn over illegals to ICE are disobeying those orders and diming illegals to ICE.

I know many cops who do not arrest for minor drug offenses.

Our country is in the early stages of anarchy where everybody thinks they can decide what laws apply and what do not. It is only going to get worse.

Or better

 

[rotor]

I worked in the Watts area in LA in the early 60's and saw the national guard driving around with 50 cal machine guns mounted on the back of their jeeps. They used them too and I remember a milkman delivering milk was killed by them. Do not go with the idea that the military will not follow orders from above. In what country do you see the military not following dictatorial powers? Venezuela, Cuba, Iran, China, Syria? Forgot Cambodia.
I think it is wishful thinking that you believe that American forces will not fight American people. And then you have Waco.

 

[jrbfishn]

If it comes down to all out confiscation and armed resistance, it ain't going to be pretty for anyone.
I still hold out hope that the Constitution wins out. I know that similar laws are already on the books in some places but these combined are potentialy worse than a lot of places. Potentially enough to cause total chaos and armed conflict. Let us hope that if they do pass that SCOTUS will step in and squash them before it gets to that point. If they don't, it ain't going to be fun for either side or those in the middle.

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