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My girlfriend's mother just gave her notice. She's in her 70's. Still works full time as a RN. The system she works for is starting to mandate the vaccine.
If she's in the age group that is most effected, in the medical field, and would rather quit than get vaccinated, maybe that should tell you something.
 

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A few weeks ago our CEO announced that the covid 19 vaccine was going to be mandatory but he made a brief statement that those that had a religious opposition to getting the vaccine would need to speak with HR and each case would be individually considered. HR sent me a form for me to write a statement as to why I religiously objected to the vaccine. My HR just recently got back to me asking if I would object to wearing a mask at work and maintaining social distancing with everyone which I responded that I was OK with all that. They also asked if I would mind paying for covid testing and the masks that I would need to wear to which I replied that if they wanted me to test for having covid and wear masks then the company should pay for all of that. My impression after this recent meeting with HR is that I will be granted an exemption on religious grounds to not get vaccinated. We are planning to return to work back to our offices in early October (been working from home for over a year) so they will be making a final decision on my case before then.

As a follow up to this post I made a few weeks ago... HR at this liberal CA based company I am presently working at has been mostly silent and I am getting the impression now that they are not going to honor my request for a religious exemption for their mandated vaccination policy.

But thank God as last week an old business acquaintance contacted me with an great job offer that is much better than what I am doing now so I accepted it and put in my 2 week notice. The company I will be going to is a Texas based pro 2nd Amendment company unlike the one I am with now and they will not have any mandated vaccinations. :green:
 

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As a follow up to this post I made a few weeks ago... HR at this liberal CA based company I am presently working at has been mostly silent and I am getting the impression now that they are not going to honor my request for a religious exemption for their mandated vaccination policy.

But thank God as last week an old business acquaintance contacted me with an great job offer that is much better than what I am doing now so I accepted it and put in my 2 week notice. The company I will be going to is a Texas based pro 2nd Amendment company unlike the one I am with now and they will not have any mandated vaccinations. :green:
Congratulations. Good for you!
 

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I’m curious about this and believe your numbers. My question is were those hospitalizations strictly because of Covid. Maybe asked differently, the question would be ‘of your admitted general population, what percent were known covid positive prior to admission and would not have been admitted otherwise? Same goes for ICU.

From what I glean much of the hospitalized population is provided supportive care which can also be effectively delivered via home health care services.
Anecdotally, most of the COVID + patients were admitted for covid pneumonia. Seems like a much higher percentage than in the last wave.

How do you explain healthy people getting the vaccine, then developing symptoms in a matter of days and then dying?

Would you call that normal, or acceptable?

How about people still getting Covid after getting the vaccination?

Is that normal, or acceptable too?

You know where I categorize most doctors? With shyster lawyers and sleazy politicians.

Honestly, I’ve seen plenty of pretty healthy people were got pretty darn sick with covid. I stop counting the people who were younger than me, and with almost no medical conditions.

I also live in the reality that there are no medical treatments that are risk free or 100% effective. That being said, the COVID vaccines are all pretty darn good at reducing the risk of getting hospitalized from COVID.

You want to avoid vaccines. Fine with me. Want to lose your job because you think avoiding a vaccines is worth more to you than your job. Fine with me. But if you come to the hospital, be nice tohe staff. I hope you don’t have to wait in the emergency room too long waiting for a bed. I really hope you don’t need to be transferred to a real hospital, cause it is going to be an issue. Our covid numbers are steadily dropping, but our hospital is still quite full.

I am happy for people to make their own choices. I also expect people to live with the consequences of their decisions.
 

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Anecdotally, most of the COVID + patients were admitted for covid pneumonia. Seems like a much higher percentage than in the last wave.…
Thanks. I’m still having a hard time reconciling how a virus that is both easily transmissible and highly lethal has staying power. It has to either burn itself out of hosts or it has to mutate to preserve itself. I get exponential increases in afflicted cases results in increased mortality because math and all that, but that doesn’t take into account the exponentially increasing population with immunity.

I’ve always said that thinking what we know is all there is to know is a fallacy…the key must still lie in what we don’t know, and I think that’s going to be found in how endemic this turns out to be in the long run. I would *think* more endemic than more epidemic would be a better outcome over time. I doubt this virus will ever be eradicated.

Once the collective ‘we’ recognizes this I hope things become more rational and less binary.
 

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Thanks. I’m still having a hard time reconciling how a virus that is both easily transmissible and highly lethal has staying power. It has to either burn itself out of hosts or it has to mutate to preserve itself. I get exponential increases in afflicted cases results in increased mortality because math and all that, but that doesn’t take into account the exponentially increasing population with immunity.

I’ve always said that thinking what we know is all there is to know is a fallacy…the key must still lie in what we don’t know, and I think that’s going to be found in how endemic this turns out to be in the long run. I would *think* more endemic than more epidemic would be a better outcome over time. I doubt this virus will ever be eradicated.

Once the collective ‘we’ recognizes this I hope things become more rational and less binary.
As far as I know, we've lived with coronaviruses all our lives.
 

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