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Ole Cowboy

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I am hearing a lot about barrel burn out. Which with my background I beg the question of can we not improve the steel? Is barrel burn out merely a metallurgical question in search of a solution. Certainly we can step up to Chro-Moly or Stainless Steel each will give increased barrel life and a reduction in burn out. Improved steel is the answer IMO!
 

zackmars

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Another point I forgot to make earlier.


.243 WSM is gonna lose most of its advantages when fired from a 14-16” barrel. Who wants to lug around a combat rifle with a 26-28” barrel?


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This is a good point. Full length rifles with ~30" barrels drew their last breath during WW1, the British and the US was well ahead of the curve, and so we both went into WW1 with "universal rifles", instead of an infantry rifle and carbine for horse mounted troops, we settled on a compromise. Funny enough the nature of WW1 mostly had rifles left behind in favor of pistols, grenades, and melee weapons.

Moral of the story, long firearms sucking and short firearms being preferred is far from new
 

zackmars

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I am hearing a lot about barrel burn out. Which with my background I beg the question of can we not improve the steel? Is barrel burn out merely a metallurgical question in search of a solution. Certainly we can step up to Chro-Moly or Stainless Steel each will give increased barrel life and a reduction in burn out. Improved steel is the answer IMO!

Metallurgy is much more complicated than simply asking "can it be improved"

It can, but we aren't there yet. It's not like you can go back to the 1700's with the formula for smokless powder and come out with a continental army armed with 1903's and 1911's

And the barrels used on the M4 are already pretty much using the best, PROVEN tech. CMV, 4150 steel, SOCOM profile, and yet they still have their limits with 5.56. Sure there are things like CHF, and other types of rifling, but thats not going to make a 20,000 round avg. barrel go to a 40,000 round avg.
 
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zackmars

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Also, while stainless steel is good for lowering cost on accuracy oriented barrels, it holds up very poorly compared to standard CMV barrels under high round counts. A .243wsm combat rifle with a short, stainless barrel would be a horrific service rifle
 

easy rider

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