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    What would happen if it was fired at a mirror or reflective mylar?

    How much does each rifle cost? Why does it look like it's ripped off American tech?
     
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    I agree. I don't think a bunch of lithium batteries in the stock is going produce anything they claim. I'm not a laser expert. But I'd expect the soldier to have to wear a battery on his back. A huge and very heavy battery. Then I'd suspect it'd be a two to three shot deal before it'd need hours and hours to charge the pack back up. I don't see it as being practical for anything but propaganda.
     

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    I think you folks don't realize how far laser technology has come.. BTW those of you suggesting a MASER.... MASERS are unbelievably difficult to focus because of something called blooming and that's why it DOES take a hell of a lot of energy to make beams of them. They're referred to as DEWs and they take a hell of a lot of power. I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to have actually developed a LASER that can burn holes through something at 800 meters. Don't think of it as a laser beam as much as directed heat.

    The Chinese aren't loaded down with bloated corrupt contractors that bleed their government dry of military spending. They spend 1/20th as much as we do and get MUCH better results. We can say they've stolen a lot of our 80s and 90s technology, and they have, but they also have been developing a LOT of their own tech over the past 20 years and they're doing a good job of it.

    Half the shit on ya'lls rifles are built in China.
     

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    China Claims to Have a Laser Assault Rifle That Can Set Clothes on Fire

    It's probably best to be skeptical about this alleged wonder weapon.

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    • A Chinese newspaper claimed the country has a laser rifle that can burn people and ignite explosions.
    • The U.S. is working on similar tech, but these weapons are so big they must be mounted on vehicles.
    • There's good reason to believe China is exaggerating what its gun can do.
    China allegedly has a “laser assault rifle” that can fire a thousand shots at a time, “carbonizing” human skin and tissue.

    The ZKZM-500 laser assault rifle, profiled in the South China Morning Post, is described as a laser wonder weapon. The article raises more questions than it answers, though Beijing’s research into laser weapons is particularly pertinent given recent allegations that Chinese military personnel have injured U.S. military personnel with high-powered lasers.

    According to the report, the ZKZM-500 is a handheld laser assault rifle. Unlike ordinary sleek assault rifles, this weapon is a clunky rectangular shape with a pistol grip, foregrip, and a telescopic sight. The weapon is powered by a lithium battery capable of supplying power for up to a thousand two-second shots.

    The ZKZM-500 can reportedly burn human beings, inflicting pain “beyond human endurance.” The weapon is supposedly so powerful it can set flammable clothes on fire, igniting the wearer, or burn through a gas tank and spark the fuel inside to cause an explosion. The weapon is silent, as there is no gunshot, and the beam is invisible, lending itself to covert military operations. The laser beam can pass through glass, injuring the person behind it.

    The laser rifle is reportedly ready for mass production and will enter service with the People’s Armed Police, a heavily armed paramilitary law enforcement agency similar to European gendarmes.

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    PY-132A blinding laser.
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    There are a number of problems with this alleged weapon. First, its use in war is illegal under the 1998 Protocol on Blinding Laser Weapons. While the weapon may not have expressly been designed to blind human beings, it would indeed blind someone if it worked as advertised.

    Most countries simply would not develop such a weapon and that would be that. China, on the other hand, appears to be getting around this by developing them for and issuing them to the People’s Armed Police, which has a domestic security mission. Another Chinese weapon, the PY-132A laser (see above), was expressly designed as a blinding laser.

    33 MINUTES OF LASER POWER WOULD REQUIRE A BANK OF BATTERIES AS LARGE OR LARGER THAN RIFLE ITSELF

    Also, it’s difficult to believe this weapon is as powerful as advertised. Although the article discusses the weapon’s burning effects in detail, the ZKZM-500's wattage is conveniently left out. The U.S. Military is currently funding research into laser weapons that can do everything the ZKZM-500 reportedly can, but they are multi-kilowatt devices that are so large they must be mounted on armored vehicles or ships. Such a weapon may eventually reach the handheld stage, but nobody is quite there yet. (The weapon would also quickly grow so hot after even a few shots it would require a cooling mechanism.)

    Power storage is another problem. The ZKZM-500 can reportedly fire a thousand two-second shots, the equivalent of 33 minutes of laser power, from a “lithium battery.” There’s no way a weapon the size of a rifle can store that much energy internally given today's technology, even if it were stuffed with batteries. To store the equivalent of 33 minutes of laser power would require a considerable power supply outside the rifle itself.

    So, either China is seriously exaggerating the performance its “laser assault rifle” or the operates under serious technical restraints that make its usefulness in the field questionable. It’s far more likely that the laser operates at a much lower strength and is intentionally meant to blind rioters as part of an internal security role. Recent incidents involving Chinese military personnel injuring American military aircrews in Africa and the East China Sea shows Beijing has few qualms about using them to intentionally blind human beings. Whether the ZKZM-500 stays in paramilitary service or spreads to the People’s Liberation Army remains to be seen.

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    Somewhat agree but my laser pointer works for a long time with a AA battery. The blue LED in your CD player is an eye hazard. The scope would need a proper filter to prevent blinding the shooter from reflected light. Yes it takes some 'time-on-target' to generate enough heat (from small laser) to burn. When I worked on a high energy pulsed laser, not so much.
     

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    Does China have a history about being honest about the capability of their products?

    Therein lies the simplest explanation.

    And LASERs aren't immune to focus issues, either... and when lenses are used to focus them, there are losses (and resulting heat build-up). You're greatly simplifying the issues around designing such a device, and seem to be doing a bit of pro-China propaganda yourself. I am aware that many products we use every day are "hecho en China"... but that doesn't make magically able to design something that has eluded other world scientists for some time.

    The most logical explanation is that their gov't run version of CNN/MSNBC got confused and greatly exaggerated it's capabilities. We've never seen that happen over here, right?
     
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