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  • Maverick44

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    You don't remember correctly. The NRA didn't "not really fight.". Marion Hammer (and what she says is, by default, the official NRA position) jumped out ahead of the issue and issued a statement that bump stocks were machine guns and should have never been legal. She did that long before there was any strong move towards a ban. That statement paved the way for the ban, making it not only possible but easy.

    The NRA threw bump stocks under the bus well before they had any reason to, failed to leverage the issue for any gain, and overall demonstrated a shocking anti-2A attitude as well as total political ineptitude.

    I'll argue for the NRA under many circumstances but, in this case, phuck 'em.

    Yep, and then they tried to backtrack on it.

    The fact that they weren't involved at all with getting this case into a court says a lot about them.


    This case was brought by Gun Owners of America (GOA), Gun Owners Foundation (GOF), the Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL), Matt Watkins, Tim Harmsen of the Military Arms Channel, and GOA’s Texas Director, Rachel Malone.
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    Dash Riprock

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    You don't remember correctly. The NRA didn't "not really fight.". Marion Hammer (and what she says is, by default, the official NRA position) jumped out ahead of the issue and issued a statement that bump stocks were machine guns and should have never been legal. She did that long before there was any strong move towards a ban. That statement paved the way for the ban, making it not only possible but easy.

    The NRA threw bump stocks under the bus well before they had any reason to, failed to leverage the issue for any gain, and overall demonstrated a shocking anti-2A attitude as well as total political ineptitude.

    I'll argue for the NRA under many circumstances but, in this case, phuck 'em.
    Wow, it's worse than I thought.

    I need to start donating to GOA.
     

    Rhino

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    Yep, and then they tried to backtrack on it.

    The fact that they weren't involved at all with getting this case into a court says a lot about them.


    For those ignoring her, Rachel is effective...


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    benenglish

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    For those ignoring her, Rachel is effective...
    Because she's hard to ignore.

    I strongly recommend to everyone that if you get a chance to take her "How to Lobby the Texas Legislature" class, do it. It's free but I would have paid good money for the great info I got from it.
     

    TreyG-20

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    I can see the bodies(bumpstocks that is) rising back up from boating accidents after the news!
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    gll

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    U.S. Military Court Declares Bump Stocks Are Not Machineguns!!!

     

    toddnjoyce

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    U.S. Military Court Declares Bump Stocks Are Not Machineguns!!!



    The Navy Marine Corps Court of Appeals opinion can be found here:

    U.S. v. ALKAZAHG Case No. 202000087


    Chiefly, the court holds the Rule transforms “by a single function of the trigger” to “by a single pull of the trigger” and that’s changing the law. They go on to state that, while they don’t have to address automatic vs semiautomatic re: bumpstock, they would.

    “Any actions beyond that of the initiation sequence—pulling the trigger—expand beyond the ambit of the common understanding of “automatically.” It is incorrect to equate the holding of the trigger in an automatic weapon with the holding of the trigger and the forward motion in a semi-automatic weapon equipped with a bump stock. “
     
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    Renegade

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    So says a panel of the United States Court of Appeals for the Sixth Circuit.

    Some of you folks may need to go buy some SCUBA equipment.

    To be clear, this is not final Case law, as case is headed back to the lower court.


    and now the ruling is final (8-8 leaves it intact). Only SCOTUS can overturn now.

     

    TheDan

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    I mean for monetary compensation. At least two businesses were completely destroyed, plus all the individual owners who were never compensated for loss of property.
     
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